[GeoffW]

Hey guys, I've weighed my bike on three different scales, but I'm not convinced that it really weights what it does. Here's spec:
Balfa 2Step w/Vanilla RC
Z150
Singletracks w/XT rear/Formula fr
XT shifters/brake/cassette/chain
LX rear derailieur
RF North Shore cranks/Evolve FR BB
Avid 185 mm disks
Thomson post/stem
Azonic WF bar
ODI lockons
Weirwolf Race 2.5 fr/Tioga 2.3 DH rear
Time ATAC pedals
King headset

Hope I didn't miss anything, but this tank weighs 46.6 lbs!! Where is all this weight coming from? I could see ~9-10 lb for the frame, 7 lb for the fork, that's 17 lbs, where's the other 30 lbs come from??
Any thoughts? Hard to say, but I'm thinking all three scales are off....

 

[zedro]

probably because it sits on the couch and eats corkchips all day drinking beer yelling at Judge Judy because its too fat too reach the remote to change the channel and watch soaps.

 

[cali4niabiker]

Most of the weight comes from the wheelset and tires. Most of the time, the wheelset can weigh anywhere from 10 - 14 lbs, depending on the setup.

-CAbiker

 

[JTVW]

Hope I didn't miss anything, but this tank weighs 46.6 lbs!! Where is all this weight coming from? I could see ~9-10 lb for the frame, 7 lb for the fork, that's 17 lbs, where's the other 30 lbs come from??
Any thoughts? Hard to say, but I'm thinking all three scales are off....

Maybe there's a really fat (30lb) baby squeezed into the tubes of your frame, you should disasseble your bike completely, then use some sort of vacuum devise to suck that fat baby out of there. That'll do it.

 

[zedro]

Maybe there's a really fat (30lb) baby squeezed into the tubes of your frame, you should disasseble your bike completely, then use some sort of vacuum devise to suck that fat baby out of there. That'll do it.

i hear you can dissolve babies with acetone....

 

[cali4niabiker]

Perhaps a bunch of helium balloons attached to the frame while weighing will help?

 

[cali4niabiker]

i hear you can dissolve babies with acetone....

Hmm... funny that acetone doesn't actually dissolve skin... hydrobromic acid will do the trick over time, but that stuff is one of the nastiest I've handled thus far. Fuming Br2 =

 

[The4AssedMonkey]

And maybe a tubeless kit? COmbine that and you'll shave off about 5lbs...Northshores are like solid steel man.

 

[Bulldog]

XT hubs are made of lead alloy. And DH tires are just crazy heavy no matter how you slice it. If you've got DH tubes in them it becomes utterly rediculous how much excess weight can add up.

 

[JTVW]

Hmm... funny that acetone doesn't actually dissolve skin... hydrobromic acid will do the trick over time, but that stuff is one of the nastiest I've handled thus far. Fuming Br2 =

I am in the process of developing an anti-baby spray. Should be out this fall.
BTW don't you think babies look really weird? Ugh...I hate them.

 

[Lex]

Hey guys, I've weighed my bike on three different scales, but I'm not convinced that it really weights what it does. Here's spec:
Balfa 2Step w/Vanilla RC
Z150
Singletracks w/XT rear/Formula fr
XT shifters/brake/cassette/chain
LX rear derailieur
RF North Shore cranks/Evolve FR BB
Avid 185 mm disks
Thomson post/stem
Azonic WF bar
ODI lockons
Weirwolf Race 2.5 fr/Tioga 2.3 DH rear
Time ATAC pedals
King headset

Hope I didn't miss anything, but this tank weighs 46.6 lbs!! Where is all this weight coming from? I could see ~9-10 lb for the frame, 7 lb for the fork, that's 17 lbs, where's the other 30 lbs come from??
Any thoughts? Hard to say, but I'm thinking all three scales are off....

I have a 2Step as well and, although I don't know the weight, there is no way it's that heavy. Your 2Step weighs more than my BB7 does! My build has a Supernova, which is a little more that 2 pounds lighter than your Z150. The wheels are 521s on Hugi hubs with Highroller XC tires and XC tubes, so there is a little weight difference there. I have Race Face XC cranks compared to your Northshores, but other than that our bikes aren't that different.

Now I'm curious how much mine really does weigh. I'll have to check it out.

 

[mandown]

balfa bikes are heavy.
i have a bb7 that weighs in at about 50 pounds ink:
2003 bb7
mavic 219s with noname hubs
maxxis minnion 2.5s f/r
shiver
avy rear
husse cranks and truvative bb
a-frames
fsa oversized bar w/odi grips
hayes hydros

it was about 46lbs before i added the floating brake. figure that weighs a pound or so. i also ran it with alex dx32 rims and nokian 3.0/2.6 rubber on the f/r with a 26/24 rim combo. that must have taken it to over 50. the bike handlers at the big bear chairlift were gonna shoot me :mumble:

just remember, it ain't heavy, its my bike

 

[me89]

im with the couch theroy. it seems the most logical. those bike frames can be very demanding. lol its a dh bike what did you expect it to weigh 28 lbs. its not a xc rig. its made to take nasty **** that a xc rig would cringe at. :dancing:

 

[JTVW]

dear me89,

You're 89?!? WOW, that's old.

 

[cali4niabiker]

I'm still stoked as to why your bike is so heavy (46 lbs). My DH bike (upon weighing it on two scales) weighs in at 43 even. I think your bike is probably around 36... and by comparing it to mine, yours should be lighter BY far!

Here is the build list:
'01 Dare frame w/ DH swingarm (9 lbs)
kings w/ d521's (tubeless)
maxxis highroller 2.5 r, 2.7 f
shiver dc w/ integrated stem (10 lbs)
azonic loveset
cheapo weyless dh 28" risers (like 1.5 lbs for the handlebar itself)
northshore dh, 34 t, w/ e.13 srs
the rest is chump change in terms of weight

Oh, yeah, I do have a fat baby inside the frame. BTW, I haven't bothered trying to dissolve the baby nor have I given my bike a zedro calorie diet.

 

[me89]

yeh weight is a big issue for a xc rig or a freeride bike that is going to be riden on trails but i dont understand why you buy a dh bike and wory about the weight you arent going to be riding up any hills. even if it did weigh 40 lbs or less you would be pushin it so why not get better but yet heavier componets.or just dont get a dh frame. just my 2 cents

 

[zedro]

I am in the process of developing an anti-baby spray. Should be out this fall.
BTW don't you think babies look really weird? Ugh...I hate them.

babies is exactly whats wrong with america today...

 

[Lizard0fthetrai]

Gravity.

 

[JTVW]

babies is exactly whats wrong with america today...

word.

 

[ssaddict]

well for starters, there is nothing light on it

No carbon or ti anywhere, and not enough lightweight alum.

 

[Jm_]

Hey guys, I've weighed my bike on three different scales, but I'm not convinced that it really weights what it does. Here's spec:
Balfa 2Step w/Vanilla RC
Z150
Singletracks w/XT rear/Formula fr
XT shifters/brake/cassette/chain
LX rear derailieur
RF North Shore cranks/Evolve FR BB
Avid 185 mm disks
Thomson post/stem
Azonic WF bar
ODI lockons
Weirwolf Race 2.5 fr/Tioga 2.3 DH rear
Time ATAC pedals
King headset

Hope I didn't miss anything, but this tank weighs 46.6 lbs!! Where is all this weight coming from? I could see ~9-10 lb for the frame, 7 lb for the fork, that's 17 lbs, where's the other 30 lbs come from??
Any thoughts? Hard to say, but I'm thinking all three scales are off....

Z150 is 7lbs.
XY hubs are lead anchors
I bet those raceface cranks are heavy as well
Avid discs tag on an extra 300-400 grams over a comprable hydro system (almost a pound)
DH tires

 

[GeoffW]

I get the impression that some of you think I'm complaining, although I'm not, I pedal the thing 25-30 miles a day, I know what I've got, I went from a Loco Moto to this and don't complain. Yes, I know it's a FR/DH bike, whatever the weight is I could care less...although it has made me curious about where 46+ lbs comes from? Look at the parts list on it and I have trouble seeing it adding up to 46 lbs, especially with a Weirwolf Race up from (790 grams), XC tubes and a few other semi light things. There is nothing abnormally crazy heavy on this bike except the North Shores and the Z150. I'm having trouble understanding where all this weight is coming from, I was expcet mid to high 30's.
On a side Note, I dunno how happy I am with the NS's, I completely pulled a pedal out of the non drive side arm last night. I thought at first I didn't have the pedal tightened, but after looking at the pedal and the crank arm threads on it, it pulled clean out. All on a bunny hopping a curb. Nothing over 3 feet with these babies since I've only had them for a couple weeks. I'm quite surprised, a light set of LX hollowtechs lasted me for three years under significantly more abuse...

 

[MMike]

probably because it sits on the couch and eats corkchips all day drinking beer yelling at Judge Judy because its too fat too reach the remote to change the channel and watch soaps.

i wish I had my reaching broom.....

 

[GeoffW]

probably because it sits on the couch and eats corkchips all day drinking beer yelling at Judge Judy because its too fat too reach the remote to change the channel and watch soaps.

I was talking about my bike..not me? How do you know what I look like? Are you the guy parked in my bushes every second night?

 

[Eigil]

That's only a couple more than my fairly light-feeling slalom bike. Are you thinking it's too heavy number-wise, or feel-wise? If it feels light, that's what matters.

 

[narlus]

babies is exactly whats wrong with america today...

and Mmike is importing his USA-branded one across the border. canada's turn is next.

 

[Jm_]

babies is exactly whats wrong with america today...

I agree, although I know it's more of a problem in other countries like India and China, I do not buy into the popular notion that we "need" to have more people and just choke the hell out of the land and the resources untill we get past the point of no return. More babies creates the need for more raw materials, creates the motivation for developers to keep developing. Developers are the root of much evil in my opinion...

 

[narlus]

expansion and growth are central tenets to our capitalist market structure. europe is (or will be) finding this out the hard way w/ declining birth rates and strict immigration laws.

actually, the US birth rate is on the high side for developed countries (14.1 births per 1000); the only other higher rates i saw on the list google provided me were iceland (14.4), ireland (14.6), israel (18.9). for comparison, australia is 12.7, canada is 11, and most of the european countries listed are under 10.

 

[JTVW]

I agree, although I know it's more of a problem in other countries like India and China, I do not buy into the popular notion that we "need" to have more people and just choke the hell out of the land and the resources untill we get past the point of no return. More babies creates the need for more raw materials, creates the motivation for developers to keep developing. Developers are the root of much evil in my opinion...

Hey there, hold on, I just think babies look weird, that's all. None of this environmental crap now, please. Christ all mighty.
Anyway, anybody see that movie Baby Geniuses, that creeped me the f*ck out, man. If that **** is true, I'm gonna be f'in pissed off, man. Some babies is gonna get wacked.....yo

 

[ChrisRobin]

If you're worried about weight, get yourself a Nucleon ST...nice and light!!

 

[ChrisRobin]

i dont understand why you buy a dh bike and wory about the weight you arent going to be riding up any hills.

Say that to all the racer monkeys here.

 

[zedro]

I agree, although I know it's more of a problem in other countries like India and China, I do not buy into the popular notion that we "need" to have more people and just choke the hell out of the land and the resources untill we get past the point of no return. More babies creates the need for more raw materials, creates the motivation for developers to keep developing. Developers are the root of much evil in my opinion...

wtf...lol

how could you bastardize my irreverent retort with a socio-political rant? :angry:

 

[ckooi]

try refer to http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings.php for the weight of each part

 

[lovebunny]

actually, the US birth rate is on the high side for developed countries (14.1 births per 1000);

. man thatd suck to be .1 of a person.

 

[zedro]

. man thatd suck to be .1 of a person.

theres more than one of those around here..... :nuts:

 

[cali4niabiker]

. man thatd suck to be .1 of a person.

Round it down to 14!

 

[MikeD]

. man thatd suck to be .1 of a person.

It can't be so bad...Robbie Bourdon doesn't seem to mind.

MD

 

[erikkellison]

As for your bike, the Balfa has a CroMo rear triangle, right? That thing is so strong, it CAN'T be light.
Your RF BB is about 125g heavier than it needs to be, get an FSA.
Your hubs are at least 150g heavier (a piece) than they need to be.
Your Z150 weighs the same as a Super T (it is not a light single crown fork, probably the heaviest SC out there).
Avid disc brakes are heavier than need to be.
World Force bars weigh more than DoubleWall's and other "name brand" bars.
Make sure you're using lightweight tubes if you care that much about weight.
Also, the scales are probably off by a couple pounds.
My bike weighs less than yours, but I concentrate on lightweight parts that are still strong enough, and it's still about 40 even (too heavy if you ask me):
'04 L Bullit (w/ 5th E)
'03 Super T
D321 laced to Ringle 20mm front, Sun MTX laced to Bill Xtrem Hub rear, 14g, 32/36H, light DH tubes(250g a piece), Mobster2.5/2.7.
Thomson post
Marzocchi integrated stem
Azonic Doublewall riser (2.5")
ODI grips
XT shifter pods, cassette, front derailleur
Wippermann chain
Holzfeller cranks
Easton DX30 pedals
2 rings, inner 22T steel, middle 32T alloy, machined out RF bashguard
XTR rear derailleur
FSA platinum BB
Azonic Hot Seat
'03 XT disc brakes

Well, as for your NS cranks, they have at least a 10 year guarantee if not lifetime, so you should have no problem replacing them. That is the first (maybe second) time I've heard of those cranks failing... that's why they're guaranteed for so long. You probably didn't have the washer in place, or the pedals torqued properly (too tight or too loose)... there has to be something more to your specific situation, they just don't break like that.

Other comments: people like DH bikes to be light because lighter bikes handle better when racing. Maybe you were referring to lift-service sleds. Those feel really good going downhill when you're not trying to race. If your bike is too heavy to handle, it will take you down regardless of where you were planning on taking it