valve bouncer said:As much as I've enjoyed watching the World Cup the amount of diving, cheating, corruption and outright arseholeness in soccer is far greater than in any other sport.
soccer is great (if you like men hugging)valve bouncer said:As much as I've enjoyed watching the World Cup the amount of diving, cheating, corruption and outright arseholeness in soccer is far greater than in any other sport.
check ya PMs ya pisshead...JohnE said:This is the general impression that most Americans get of the game. They see the diving and crying that goes on and miss/cant appreciate the rest of it. Didnt think anything could make me happy to se France win...
ukjason said:Its called FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mumble: :mumble: :mumble:
hang on.. i ll go get the phone... it s in the garage...JohnE said:Just tried to call you, but I guess you are too busy commenting on world sport to answer the fone.
Heh, you can call it what you want but we already have football and it's barely more interesting than soccer. Personally I like biking in part because I DON'T like traditional ball sports.ukjason said:Its called SOCCER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mumble: :mumble: :mumble:
wow. did you think that all up?atrokz said:Anyone find it amusing that american 'football' is a sport where the ball is handled primarily with your hands?
Leave it to the americans to coin up that one.
I consider myself an avid U.S. sports fan with a pretty broad knowledge base and this is EXACTLY how I feel.JohnE said:This is the general impression that most Americans get of the game. They see the diving and crying that goes on and miss/cant appreciate the rest of it.
with a decent referee they would have gotten get a yellow card for that.I Are Baboon said:BTW, in NFL football you'd get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct for that kind of crap. Not to mention the BEATDOWN you'd get from opposing players.
fluff said:Here's a good site with tables of which teams dive and cheat the most (among other stats):
http://www.informationbuilders.co.uk/ontheball/wcuk.htm
And that's just the Italians!valve bouncer said:As much as I've enjoyed watching the World Cup the amount of diving, cheating, corruption and outright arseholeness in soccer is far greater than in any other sport.
No, I outsource most of my thinking to China. :redX:BurlyShirley said:wow. did you think that all up?
yep, good idea.dante said:next WC they really need to issue yellow (and red) cards after the game. have officials review the game, and if there's flagrant diving or any other unsportsmanlike conduct, issue a yellow/red card. wouldn't affect the game that was just played, but would have an impact on future games....
Don't forget to fine them too!dante said:next WC they really need to issue yellow (and red) cards after the game. have officials review the game, and if there's flagrant diving or any other unsportsmanlike conduct, issue a yellow/red card. wouldn't affect the game that was just played, but would have an impact on future games....
fluff said:Here's a good site with tables of which teams dive and cheat the most (among other stats):
http://www.informationbuilders.co.uk/ontheball/wcuk.htm
llkoolkeg said:Hahahaha...that is cool. I like the IBI Foul Play Index and am not surprised to see Italy and Paraguay leading the charge with 40 and 45 points respectively. Having played house, all-star and traveling select squad for many years as a youth, I truly enjoy and appreciate the game. I have cheered at Ajaxstadion in Amsterdam and at RFK during the World Cup's visit to the States. Hell, I used to go to old Washington Diplomats professional matches at RFK before the MLS even existed...you know- where both Johan Cruyff and Bobby Stokes were ultimately put out to pasture.
The dramatic license taken by some "players" during dives and other injury/gamesmanship theatrics- all for the purpose of cajoling a set piece or booking from a gullible official- is the single biggest complaint I hear when trying to turn fellow 'mericans onto European Football. If they haven't already given up on the game by that point, they certainly do once the "magic spray" is produced by a sidelines trainer and they witness for themselves the miracle of instant resuscitation and recovery by players immobilized and writhing on a stretcher mere seconds before. Once a soccer neophyte witnesses THAT bit of dubious drama, I start getting the raised-eyebrow looks that must be commonly exchanged during professional wrestling events.