alright so here it is! after reading internet forums for a couple years now, its apparent that many riders are unhappy with the quality of the regular suspension systems such as fox dhx, manitou swinger, even rock shox vivid and also there front suspension counterparts..boxxer,40,travis etc... alot of riders have been looking to get upgraded internals.. "pushing" there shox....getting things like BOS upgrades and such like that. Riders have even turned to off brands for there suspension needs to more moto style dampened forks claiming that the suspension feel is far greater and better performing. Ive also noticed that alot of riders are in constant search of that perfect suspension set-up and are constantly fiddling with there supsenion adjustment knobs all the time. so my question to you guys is basically why you feel that major brands of suspension that you see come stock on most bikes such as fox dhx and boxxers are just not good enough to meet your needs? why the need for upgraded internals? what arnt these forks and shox performing up to your standards? why do you feel the need to look into a better performing shock... when a dhx or vivid is all you would ever need? like honestly why do you feel that products such as a fox 40 or boxxer world cup arnt good enough quality to meet your suspension needs? I personally have always felt like a shock such as a dhx and boxxer world cup were more then good enough in suspension performance.... i just set the air pressure to whats good for my weight and make sure the rebound is right and that the forks not bottoming out all the time but still using its travel and im set! never touch the suspension again and im happy for the whole season. i just dont understand how people can sit here and post and says these companies suspension are garbage and then go off and get upgraded internals and be happy? can any of you guys explain? just discuss why the performance is inferior please. thanks. sorry if this post is tough to understand.. let me know if you need further explanation.