Quantcast

with sticky tires and gravity on his side

  • Come enter the Ridemonkey Secret Santa!

    We're kicking off the 2024 Secret Santa! Exchange gifts with other monkeys - from beer and snacks, to bike gear, to custom machined holiday decorations and tools by our more talented members, there's something for everyone.

    Click here for details and to learn how to participate.

Status
Not open for further replies.

Jeronimo

Monkey
Jul 11, 2006
241
0
behind that boulder
Nice riding. It ain't the machinery, it's the rider.
Zackly

I find it amusing when Kevin and I finish a big ride with someone who has never ridden with us and they look down and say, "You have toe clips!" Sherlock Holmes is in danger of losing his job every time.

Whodathunk one could ride somewhere like this in toe clips?

 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,165
1,261
NC
I love seeing people with expensive clip-in pedals on crappy bikes.

This guy climbed the Waterfall on the National in Phoenix clean on a titanium hardtail equipped with toe clips. He has RF cranks on that bike as well.
:cheers:

Makes my day every time I see someone on non-bling equipment kicking ass. Reminds me that I've spent too much on my gear already and I should quit thinking about it and ride harder. My particular problem with toe clips is that I'm not quite balanced enough to never need to dab or get out of the pedals, and flipping toe clips upside-down is usually asking for a wreck - or, at best, torn off toe clips.

I just liked the particular contrast of the uber-expensive, mutiple material, top of the line cranks and the toe clips attached to them ;).
 

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
10,184
0
in a bear cave
The only benefit of toe clips for an experienced rider would be the choice in shoes and comfort. Would be nice to have some warm hiking boots on for some winter rides i do. Clipless bikey shoes absolutely suck for cold.
Hence the "storm socks" i just bought for 25 bucks, hopefully that's not wasted cash, gotta keep them piggies warm in the winter, as i have had little luck with those pain in the ass neoprene booties....
 

Jeronimo

Monkey
Jul 11, 2006
241
0
behind that boulder
The only benefit of toe clips for an experienced rider would be the choice in shoes and comfort.
Let's see, with clip in pedals there's mud jammed cleats, mud jammed pedals, hike-a-bike in disco hard-soles, broken cleats, cleat bolts that back out, lack of selection in shoes and lack of sizing in shoes to name a few disadvantages.

One advantage of toe-clips not mentioned is the ability to slide quickly off of the back of the pedal when bailing out on a steep technical downhill section of trail. I've stepped right off of the back of my bike and have even been able to keep the bike from taking a hit in some pretty nasty situations.

Another advantage of toe-clips is pedal cost. With five mountain bikes, it makes financial sense as well.
 

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
10,184
0
in a bear cave
Let's see, with clip in pedals there's mud jammed cleats,
Or snow, which takes one kick against a rock or the pedal itself. Staying on the bike prevents this.

mud jammed pedals,
That's why i like the spd's with the platforms, again a kick takes care of it, and again staying on the bike prevents this.

If you have alot of clay in the soil, well then you're screwed, go ride somewhere else if it's mucky out....

hike-a-bike in disco hard-soles,
As long as they have decent tread, hiking boots have hard soles too. i've hike a biked up 5 miles of trail with a bout 4000' of gain. i was in discomfort, but not because i hiked it in clipless shoes. i was in discomfort because i was wondering what the hell i was doing killing myself for 4000' in 5 miles, but it wasn't so bad when i finally got to descend...

broken cleats,
i've never seen or heard of that happening. ever.... If you broke your cleat on an impact perhaps the cleat saved your foot from being broken?
Worn out cleats yes, takes a while though depending. i like spd's tried and true.

cleat bolts that back out,
i have seen that happen, and it's happened to me years back. It's pretty funny as you cannot clip out once the cleat is loose. A crash followed by an extreme difficulty in seperating from the bike ensues.
There's been 2 times i've seen it on the trail. The bolt is always nowhere to be found. Ironically enough if you look at my thread where you remarked i carry everything but the kitchen sink you'll see a couple cleat bolts in the pile. Those 2 people i've seen on the trail were quite happy when i gave them that bolt. A simple bolt, a ride saver.

lack of selection in shoes and lack of sizing in shoes
Yah, i wish Nike still made bikey shoes, they actually put out a decent line. People always marvel at my Vans clipless. Wait this is sounding way too girly....

One advantage of toe-clips not mentioned is the ability to slide quickly off of the back of the pedal when bailing out on a steep technical downhill section of trail. I've stepped right off of the back of my bike and have even been able to keep the bike from taking a hit in some pretty nasty situations.
Once you get used to clipless there is no difference. Especially if you're using lighter tension on spd's. It's a rarity when i crash that i stay attached to the bike.
What kind of pedals you are running are not necessarily responsible for one's inability to safely navigate tricky sections. Personally i think it's a good idea to be able to tackle them regardless of if you're running clip, clipless, or platform. That's ideal, but of course comfort is key, and i think that this ultimately is the real issue of our drawn out blather. Not physical comfort but mental comfort which instills confidence.

Another advantage of toe-clips is pedal cost. With five mountain bikes, it makes financial sense as well.
If you have 5 mt. bikes, you're in hardly a position to argue what makes financial sense.

Sorry to turn this into what i'm sure now resembles one of those pathetic MTBR "i'm right, you're wrong" argue threads. But i suppose with my weekend i've been spending resting more than riding i chose to take the opportunity to show that i really do know what i'm talking about.
When it comes to pedals only, everything else i'm pretty clueless about.

It's my suspicion that anyone who is running toe clips is just being stubborn to change. Needlessly giving the bird to the bikey world by being conservative on converting to clipless may be percieved as cool to some, i suppose.

Wearing what you want is nice, but if you held a gun to my head to drop the formality of internet politeness. Well i'd have to scream, "dude, get out of the 80's...."
 

Jeronimo

Monkey
Jul 11, 2006
241
0
behind that boulder
Sorry to turn this into what i'm sure now resembles one of those pathetic MTBR "i'm right, you're wrong" argue threads. But i suppose with my weekend i've been spending resting more than riding i chose to take the opportunity to show that i really do know what i'm talking about.
Not even. 99.9% of the posters on mtbr are retarded and the .1% who aren't know me well eough to not argue this point with either Kevin or myself. At least you're not retarded.

BTW, with the hair and spinach chin, I'd have to say back, "Get out of the 60's".

Also, I rode flats from 1986-1994.
 

Attachments

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
10,184
0
in a bear cave
Not even. 99.9% of the posters on mtbr are retarded and the .1% who aren't know me well eough to not argue this point with either Kevin or myself. At least you're not retarded.

BTW, with the hair and spinach chin, I'd have to say back, "Get out of the 60's".

Also, I rode flats from 1986-1994.
Touche, if you've been riding since 86 what are you doing still bailing on downhill sections?:busted:

Uhh, Nike still make Bike shoes, I have some, they make cipless, and shoes for using flat pedals, I dont know what your talking about.
i honestly didn't know that.... are we talking road or mt. bike shoes.
 

Jeronimo

Monkey
Jul 11, 2006
241
0
behind that boulder
Touche, if you've been riding since 86 what are you doing still bailing on downhill sections?:busted:
No matter where one goes, whom they ride with, or what trail they are riding on, there's always someone who can ride better. Even practitioners of Bobology have miscues from time to time. I enjoy challenging the limits of my skills and/or bikes.
 

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
10,184
0
in a bear cave
Oh no you're not.... Are you a hardtail purist too?

Ok it all makes sense now.:huh:

If you tell me you like 29ers then i'll concede the war to you, and go play marbles somewhere else... No use in trying to argue with someone who likes 29ers. :banghead:

Maybe we can battle side by side on the issue of bar ends... But only if you lighten up.:brows:

i been riding since 04. i am qualified.
 

Jeronimo

Monkey
Jul 11, 2006
241
0
behind that boulder
Oh no you're not.... Are you a hardtail purist too?

Ok it all makes sense now.:huh:

If you tell me you like 29ers then i'll concede the war to you, and go play marbles somewhere else... No use in trying to argue with someone who likes 29ers. :banghead:

Maybe we can battle side by side on the issue of bar ends... But only if you lighten up.:brows:

i been riding since 04. i am qualified.
My dad's name is Bob and he's an engineer (structural). There's a specific reason for everything he does and the way he does it. My siblings and I call our tendencies towards this, Bobology. I own and ride two FS bikes.

The next time some dildo bike shop employee tells me I need a 29er, they will be spitting out teeth.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.