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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by sethimus, Aug 25, 2018.
soooooooo, season's over. let's do this!
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Gwin goes to Electra. You heard it here first.
Warner seemed to imply that Eddie may go full enduro for a new team.
Vergier and Wilson might move to other teams? Can't recall where I heard re: Vergier but warner mentioned that reece could be moving.
I believe this is gwin's last year on his YT contract. he did just get his 29'er and seems to mesh with the team though. staying or going back to trek if the athertons do move on?
Need to wait for him to sign a letter of intent then to know where he's going
Seems like Gwin has been waiting for that 29er, maybe waiting for too long, and I could see deeper pockets luring him away. Or does YT have more money then it’d seem?
I’m wondering if Tahnee could benefit from a team/teammates/coach/bike change?
Warner also thinks Wales is in England
I don't know that YT necessarily has pockets deeper than other manufacturers, but the deal that Gwin has been able to put together for himself because he's not tied to a major trade team is worth a lot. He estimated he made $1m in one of the final cathrovision videos last season, which obviously included performance bonuses for a huge world cup season. I don't know that there's any one big team out there that can afford that for a lead rider.
Isn't it? Just like Scotland.
I dunno man, thats like the price of 4 of those new Trek 29er DH bikes.
So, you are saying his piecemeal approach to separate sponsors adds up to more?
Due to his increasing desirability, couldn’t he demand the same situation, but swapping in a larger frame player (Trek, say)? It seems to me that any bike company would want him on their frames even if he wasn’t doing their complete sponsor package.
I also think he’s ripe to add a big $$$ Ford/KTM/Budweiser type title sponsor.
I ride a YT and like their approach and bikes, so would rather not see him go.
Exactly, being able to pick and choose and say to a lower tier brand like TRP that I will run your stuff and help you develop better product and in return you will not only pay me to do it, but you'll give me a residual from every set of brakes you sell with my name on them surely adds up to more than Shimano giving you a set fee per year to ride their brakes. Assuming of course that you win races and people buy the stuff you run as a result.
So yes, a bigger name frame builder could probably step in and offer him more than YT, but that's assuming that a major team want to pay him more than YT already pays while also allowing him to exist outside of their existing factory team with their own sponsors already in place.
I'd agree that he was in the position to add a serious big name sponsor at the start of this year after the results he posted last year. Harder sell after this year when he hasn't been stacking up wins like they were going out of style. I was sure he was going to knock off Minnaar as the GOAT by half way through this season.
The situation with YT also probably works out very well in his favour if he can have multiple 'signature' part deals with multiple sponsors, given their model of allowing consumers to buy the race-spec bikes direct off the peg. If you can have YT spec your signature brakes, grips, saddle, bars, spoke nipples and tubeless sealant on every top model Tues sold, because that's what the race team is running it works out to more dollars in your pocket at the end of the day.
Those after race parties would be wild...
Free bread and wine for all though
shit! So it is.
Was too short as always
About the only way he has a chance to get on the podium I suppose.
Wyn to Redbull Commentary team?
Bring water and you'll drink wine!
Isn't YT "just" the main sponsor and frame provider? Whiteley and Gwin are the owners of the team with Whiteley being the manager as far as I know. Therefore it would be possible that they bring Trek back in their pits, which could add even more dollars. Don't forget that also Whiteley likes to drive fancy cars.
It's funny how there's teams and then there's the individuals.
Syndicate is always looked at as a team- Peaty, Minnar and Ratboy. Or now, Minnar and those two kids. The Atherton are another example of that.
Even though Gwin is part of a team, we really only focus on him. Hill, Hart, and MacDonald are/we're always looked at as individuals it seems.
@Electric_City I think the difference there, is that it is pretty clear that Gwin, Hart, MacDonald are the dominant riders on those teams. Whether that be in pure race results or social media (Brendon Fairclough).
Whereas a team like Peaty/Minnaar/Ratboy and now Minnaar/Vergier/Shaw, they are all top riders with the own presence. Historically haven't the Santa Cruz teams been a little longer lasting too, rather than having riders constantly jump ship?
wyn and cathro to the casting booth please
As long as Wyn keeps doing his own WynTV. That stuff has been getting better and better.
Cathro doing the course preview instead of Claudio would be great.
He could even do an extended version where he tries different lines and gives analysis before training starts. All the rider would watch it and it might even spoil the races by making the race day a rehearsal of exactly the same line by every consecutive riders...
I think Gee already got that job as part of his redbull-supported image rehab. Cathro is great though.
I like Needles announcing the Crankworks racing. Wyn is good/funny too, but I don’t see him taking Warner’s spot for quite a while.
Agree with all of this. Gee's course preview was great. Him and Cathro doing it together would be super cool.
Wyn isn't likely to stop racing in the near future so I don't think he will be commentating. His pre and post-race clips are perfect.
I had somehow completely missed that. It seems indeed that he does!
I found Needles commentary at Crankworx a bit tiresome tbh. Not sure if it was the accent but he seemed to talk quite slowly and didn't sound that enthusiastic about the whole thing.
Warner has really come a long way in his commentary - guess that training paid off. Great to hear a throwback to drunk-Warner-Freecaster-days in the La Bresse race though.
Will be interesting to see what the future holds for Wyn. Top 60 qualifying making it harder for some of the familiar faces.
Yeah for MTB commentating you need a bit of the old "Lout mouth" as well as technical knowledge to make it work.
warmer’s doing ok recently...i was really hoping for something more rowdy about gwin’s move though...along the lines of “he scrubbed that jump like a french maid in a filthy loo,” etc...
not a team rumor per se, but it sounds like Whistler wants a world cup after all.
Yep they have quietly started hosting UCI sanctioned DH and XC events with thinks like the Canada Cup and the Canadian Open being a UCI class 1 level event. They need to jump through these hoops with the UCI before then can apply to host a WC.
The 2019 dates have been announced but not locations. I speculated in a NSMB Whistler thread that it would be a WC but someone from the trail crew said not 2019 for sure.
from what i've heard a venue needs to host a certain number of UCI inscribed races before they'd be allowed to submit a bid for a WC. and the number is such that it generally takes two seasons to hit.
croatia certainly skirted that requirement.
Pretty sure it'd been used for racing for a few years prior to WC...... the European cup for example.
they hosted a c1 race there for several years before the world cup:
2013, 2014, 2016
Didn't know where to post this, but uhhh Gwin still racing so I guess in here is okay?
SAVAGE sections here what the fuck haha. Whats with that gravel trap?