I gotta say, my version of that bike was awesome (all custom geometry). It was ever better with a fox shock on it. I think RD3 has been riding now and can attest to that as well.Thanks for posting big T.
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As far as a "DH" bike goes, the Karpiels are great preforming bikes, the Armys are definitely not a top race bike for sure, the Disco was a good one for racing. They were one of the more durable bikes out there, the had a few issues at the end.i would have to say the khs is prob the worst but im gonna get flamed for this the karpel Armagedon (if thats how u spell it) or apocalypse, oh fu*k knows sumthing to do with the end of the world...lol..well it had 14" of travel whats the point, and bender the fender rode it...![]()
and i heard they were crap made too, but i just heard it so dont kill me.....![]()
There should be a suspension fork thread like this.
The Animal. They even made a version with cheetah spot print paint.Did Pro-Flex (great name, btw) ever make a 'downhill' rig? Maybe even one with a Noleen Smart Shock and it's swell little red light...Set up with a Noleen sprung Girvin, and you've got yourself a pinner!
I think they tried more when K2 bought them over in 1998. There was the K2 Animal and that was considered a DH bike back then...I guess (yellow with black tiger stripes or something). It had 6" of rear travel and the shock passed through the seattube.Did Pro-Flex (great name, btw) ever make a 'downhill' rig? Maybe even one with a Noleen Smart Shock and it's swell little red light...Set up with a Noleen sprung Girvin, and you've got yourself a pinner!
You left out Joey trying to make it go down the old mini DH at Alexander Park...I once witnessed some dude on that KHS DH bike trying to race it on a pedally slalom course. I had tears all over my cheeks from the laughter. Sprint, bob like a hooker, repeat. Worst bike ever.
So, you're saying that the K2 Animal was ahead of its time? I don't get it...Look at all the poor single pivot designs from the past, what do they remind you of,
AN ORANGE 224...........
Enough said.
Story time.
Back in '96 there was a team called Pro-Dynamix that was run by an Italian living in Florida. He had connections and was trying to import bikes from the famous Battaglin from Italy. They made beautiful XC hardtails, but being a roadie company, didn't even know what a Dh bike was. Instead of getting an M1 and slapping their stickers on it like Tomac and everyone else, they had a local Florida framebuilder make a prototype DH bike.
The bike finally arrived at the Michigan DH race (yeah, DH in Michigan - the start of the Norba's fall). Shaums March saw the bike shortly after it was built and asked to ride it. He was bouncing up and down in the parking lot and the frame broke. The look on his face was priceless - too funny. He let the inteded rider use one of his Mountain Cycles for the race which was a good thing.
I don't think the bike even had one run on it before it broke, so it gets my vote as the worst ever. Although, there are only a few people that ever saw it.
zzyzx, the last name in suspension technology..........for a reasonworst fork ever? zzyzx
I stand corrected then I didn't know that.No, but before it was the pipeline it was the vertex TO or something along those lines, and was essentially the same bike, but it was definately marketed toward DH. I'll dig out my 96 MBA downhill special if you want....
I'm not saying it wasn't a good bike, but not for DH.
The BB is at your knee level...imagine taking a turn...
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mine was at your chest, see for yourself:
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The Animal. They even made a version with cheetah spot print paint.
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hahaha, the ONLY good thing about that bike is the brakes, and if anyone should know, it would be me.
youre just pissed that i didnt buy your 9.5thats the worst bike ever
:huh:Christian Bizotto raced shorter travel Renegades for years in xc and DH races in FL without incident.
Aren't you the wise one? Did you or did you not at one point own a Ted Wojick with a carbon Battle rear triangle?:huh:
well that and the fact that your cocky and not very good.youre just pissed that i didnt buy your 9.5![]()
There is a lot of footage of him riding all sorts of different bikes, I remember seeing him on a Cove shocker some time that year. I thought it was cause he pretty much broke all his Haro's that year and had no choice but to ride whatever he could get his hands on just to race.I heard the haro 357 was crappy enough that mick was running one of kovarik's m3s (or his own he bought) in europe before going to cannondale. Lots of footage of him in haro suit on a red m3 in earthed 3.
Umm.. why bash a f/s bike that was never even intended to go off-road, much less DH?I'm surprised no one has bashed the mantra yet tho
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no, the battle rear end was aluminum.Aren't you the wise one? Did you or did you not at one point own a Ted Wojick with a carbon Battle rear triangle?
Those bikes were raced competively by the Lake Racing team out of florida, and one of my next door neighbors won the Expert race at Mt St Anne on one. That was at least as non-suited to DH in 1997-8 as the bike that the Prodyamix cats were flogging.
Back in the day, you would not believe the number of people from Florida who would drive up here for a crappy local DH race.as for FLA DH, i took yr post to mean that there were actual downhill races in florida, not that the team was from there.
ahhh im guessing u ride one??? lol so u would be leaning towards liking it....but i thought they were pritty bad and when i rode one it was liek riding a mush...but i was talkinf about the super big one the 14" rear best...not yhe standar4d issue onesAs far as a "DH" bike goes, the Karpiels are great preforming bikes, the Armys are definitely not a top race bike for sure, the Disco was a good one for racing. They were one of the more durable bikes out there, the had a few issues at the end.
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i think we will see the top riders in 2007 rocking similar equiptment!
there's someone on here who owns an apoc, and uses it for dh race, not hucking. I'm not going to deny the silliness of that bike, but I would love to play with one for a while, imagine 6" of sag with 7" of active travel left...it would be neat to ride, but maybe not race-effective.ahhh im guessing u ride one??? lol so u would be leaning towards liking it....but i thought they were pritty bad and when i rode one it was liek riding a mush...but i was talkinf about the super big one the 14" rear best...not yhe standar4d issue onesirate2: