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WOW, - Avalanche offers MX shocks !

heikkihall

heikkihall

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Avalanche has been making motorcycle suspension for longer than they have been in the Bike industry. They started out as a motocross suspension maker named C-Cycle, which was I believe later sold off so they could focus on mountain bike stuff.
 
seismic

seismic

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heikkihall said:
Avalanche has been making motorcycle suspension for longer than they have been in the Bike industry. They started out as a motocross suspension maker named C-Cycle, which was I believe later sold off so they could focus on mountain bike stuff.
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Yep...still have the old C-Cycle stickers on the fork guards on the MTN-8 fork... :)
 
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Brian Peterson

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heikkihall said:
Avalanche has been making motorcycle suspension for longer than they have been in the Bike industry. They started out as a motocross suspension maker named C-Cycle, which was I believe later sold off so they could focus on mountain bike stuff.
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The first Avalanche shock I saw years back had C-Cycle stickers on it....

Brian
 
Jm_

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Foes racing has a big 50cc selection of parts and stuff now. Suspension, frames, etc.

Of course, Marzocchi has been making MX stuff for a little while too...
 
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zedro said:
can we get back on track and bask on how great Avy is?
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Only if I can tell you what I REALLY think about boxxers. :thumb:
 
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binary visions

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Jimmy_Pop said:
I would love for Avalanche to come out with an inverted single crown in 5" 6" or 7" sizes. How sick would that be ?

joel
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...there's a reason that there is no market for inverted single crowns...
 
Bullitboyz

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because you can't make one without it being inherently prone to breakage due to natural stresses on the design and what you're asking the fork to do...
plus to build a decent one like Avalanche COULD, it'd take as many high-quality parts and fabrication as the dual-crown DH forks, making the mfg cost around $1100 and the MSRP about $1600....

i don't know about you, but i don't think there's many people willing (or able) to buy a $1600 single crown fork...

and if it's still going to be prone to breakage by nature, why mar a good company name and deal with warranty issues and all that crap?

They're better off staying outta that market, no matter HOW much i'd love to have one!
 
zedro

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Bullitboyz said:
and if it's still going to be prone to breakage by nature blah blah...
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they arent naturally prone to breakage, the are torsionally flexy because they dont have an arched lower. They suffer the same thing as inverted DCs, which BTW, arent prone to breakage.
 
Kntr

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I just dont like the feel of inverted forks and the fact that you have to run guards to protect the lowers. I have been debating on buying an AVY for a few months and just cant bring myself to buy an inverted fork. You have to admit, inverted forks have a different feel. Its just my opinion but I like regular dual crown forks.
 
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I think USD forks in general feels much nicer than non-USD forks. They seem (IMO) to respond better to the smal stuff...but that might just be a feeling !

A yeah...Avalanche stands above everything else in the suspension market !!! I think so, - I know I might get bashed for saying it, - but I mean it !
 
Kntr

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What is the reason that you speak of? Enlighten us. I am a mear grasshopper when it comes to inverted forks. Please tell us master. ;)
 
Brian HCM#1

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Kanter said:
What is the reason that you speak of? Enlighten us. I am a mear grasshopper when it comes to inverted forks. Please tell us master. ;)
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I have ridden more inverted forks than non. You do notice more rigidity with a conventional fork, but with small bumps the USD fork is far superior. There is not as much flax as one would think and as its get greater in its travel it really stiffens up. I actually like the overall feel of the USD fork over the conventional, yes you need to be more cautious with the lowers, but in the long run its worth it.
 
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Kntr

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What does USD stand for anyway? I understand it the inverted.

What is the best protection you can get for inverted. Do they make a product that protects better than the rest?
 
Brian HCM#1

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Kanter said:
What does USD stand for anyway? I understand it the inverted.

What is the best protection you can get for inverted. Do they make a product that protects better than the rest?
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Upside-down. Just the conventional fork guards is all you need. I ran my WB DH<2 without guards when I first got the inverted type back in 1999, then went over the bars scratched the right stanchion, after that I always used guards.
 
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neversummersnow said:
There is after all a reason that all motos use inverted forks, it's superior in my opinion...
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What's the reason for all the double chin fat guys wearing fox sweatshirts and baseball hats all crooked? Superior insulation system?


Steering though rocks never happens on moto tracks. To me that's the one disadvantage of inverted forks. Regardless of how much people scream "myth", they twist easier. If I rode my mountain bike on a big bmx track, I'd have not problem with inverted forks either.

I do agree that for some reason, inverted forks (especially shivers) seem really supple over chattery stuff than most non inverted designs.
 
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kidwoo said:
What's the reason for all the double chin fat guys wearing fox sweatshirts and baseball hats all crooked? Superior insulation system?


Steering though rocks never happens on moto tracks. To me that's the one disadvantage of inverted forks. Regardless of how much people scream "myth", they twist easier. If I rode my mountain bike on a big bmx track, I'd have not problem with inverted forks either.

I do agree that for some reason, inverted forks (especially shivers) seem really supple over chattery stuff than most non inverted designs.
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I did notice a huge difference as the 888 was stiff going down lower Karpiel, but just never cared for it on the smaller bumps.
 
Brian HCM#1

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seismic said:
So Brian...did you have some time on the Avy...and how was it ??
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Finally rode it today, even though I've been totally sick all week, Feels just awesome!!!!! I just need to adjust the huge weight difference on the front end now.
 
RaID

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seismic said:
I think USD forks in general feels much nicer than non-USD forks. They seem (IMO) to respond better to the smal stuff...but that might just be a feeling !
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in theory USD forks should be more responsive to the small stuff
because of the lower unsprung weight of the fork compared
to a conventional design
 
tazzmenn

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RaID said:
in theory USD forks should be more responsive to the small stuff
because of the lower unsprung weight of the fork compared
to a conventional design
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Yup that's the fact. That is why they are so widely used in MX. The USD design has less moving mass. Which required less force to start movement. This gives you a quicker responding fork. I would love to ride a Avy fork.

There was a bit of adjustment required when I first threw a leg over the Shivers I have now. They respond way different then a super t.
 
seismic

seismic

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tazzmenn said:
Yup that's the fact. That is why they are so widely used in MX. The USD design has less moving mass. Which required less force to start movement. This gives you a quicker responding fork. I would love to ride a Avy fork.

There was a bit of adjustment required when I first threw a leg over the Shivers I have now. They respond way different then a super t.
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Yeah !!!! USD = super nice !!!
 
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