~~ WRC round 1 - Monte Carlo ~~
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loab
duval
auriol
i think he can podium, he drives like a mad man whn he wants to win!
like colin's crash or win!
loab
duval
auriol
i think he can podium, he drives like a mad man whn he wants to win!
like colin's crash or win!
here y take on the situation.
if citreon is still on michelin then i'd put loeb forward as a favourite to win, if i recall correctly, subaru and peugeot are on pirreli's which are not as great on tarmac, and ford has an all new driver line up so i doubt they will be on top form yet.
so my rough prediction
loeb
gronholm
solberg/duval
dont hold me to that though.
does anybody know if any of the teams are using the 05 cars straight off the block or are they all holding off until about mexico, as that could change things hugely.
if citreon is still on michelin then i'd put loeb forward as a favourite to win, if i recall correctly, subaru and peugeot are on pirreli's which are not as great on tarmac, and ford has an all new driver line up so i doubt they will be on top form yet.
so my rough prediction
loeb
gronholm
solberg/duval
dont hold me to that though.
does anybody know if any of the teams are using the 05 cars straight off the block or are they all holding off until about mexico, as that could change things hugely.
I'd love to vote for Petter, but Loeb will win the opener.
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I think that Ham Sandwich will win.
Once again Sebastien Loeb dominated, winning his third stage victory out of a total of four timed events. The Citroën driver finished with a time 10"2 seconds faster than his teammate Francois Duval in second position.
Marcus Gronholm (3rd) and Petter Solberg (4th) tried hard to keep up with the Citroën drivers but finished with results respectively 25 and 26 seconds slower than Loeb.
Previously not entirely at ease with their cars, Markko Martin (Peugeot) and Roman Kresta (Ford) achieved much better results in SS 4, taking the fifth and sixth fastest times respectively.
Didier Auriol managed to beat many works team driver by finishing seventh in this stage, ahead of Gilles Panizzi (8th),Toni Gardemeister (9th), Harri Rovanpera (10th) and Stephane Sarrazin (11th), Armin Schwarz (12th) and Alexandre Bengue (13th).
new paint on ford.
old and new fast frenchies
Marcus Gronholm (3rd) and Petter Solberg (4th) tried hard to keep up with the Citroën drivers but finished with results respectively 25 and 26 seconds slower than Loeb.
Previously not entirely at ease with their cars, Markko Martin (Peugeot) and Roman Kresta (Ford) achieved much better results in SS 4, taking the fifth and sixth fastest times respectively.
Didier Auriol managed to beat many works team driver by finishing seventh in this stage, ahead of Gilles Panizzi (8th),Toni Gardemeister (9th), Harri Rovanpera (10th) and Stephane Sarrazin (11th), Armin Schwarz (12th) and Alexandre Bengue (13th).
new paint on ford.
old and new fast frenchies
YES!!!!!!
I knew Duval would be dangerous this year. The way he performed in Rally Germany in '04 was just a glimpse of what he's capable of.
I knew Duval would be dangerous this year. The way he performed in Rally Germany in '04 was just a glimpse of what he's capable of.
mrbigisbudgood said:
couldn't agree more!
i watched saturdays coverage a few hours ago, i love watching the monte rally, i just sit bak in sheer disbeleif at how they manage to get the cars to rail like that on the cold narrow twisty mountain roads.
at the end of every stage, they have the reporters there waiting to get interviews, every car the pulled up at the end of stage TC the disc rotors were still glowing red, just goes to show how damn hard they are pushing it.
shame for auriol, i was hoping he'd be up there whipping butt with the newer guys.
although i'm not a fan of citreon its good to see duval settling in well with the new car.
oh and tottaly unexpected that misubishi are doing so well, if this pace is anything to go by they will be a big contender this season.
edit* shame duval went out, but i heard he was taken to hosptal, anybody know if he's ok?
*edit again* sorry forget what i said, he's fine, just checked wrc.com, looks like he's ok.
at the end of every stage, they have the reporters there waiting to get interviews, every car the pulled up at the end of stage TC the disc rotors were still glowing red, just goes to show how damn hard they are pushing it.
shame for auriol, i was hoping he'd be up there whipping butt with the newer guys.
although i'm not a fan of citreon its good to see duval settling in well with the new car.
oh and tottaly unexpected that misubishi are doing so well, if this pace is anything to go by they will be a big contender this season.
edit* shame duval went out, but i heard he was taken to hosptal, anybody know if he's ok?
*edit again* sorry forget what i said, he's fine, just checked wrc.com, looks like he's ok.
my boy needs to make up 3 seconds over Loeb. c'mon Sölberg, manziman needs rent money!
here are some good pics @ http://www.motorsport.com/photos/select.asp?S=WRC&E=Monte_Carlo/Leg_two&Y=2005&O=0
huh? You mean I gotta do it AGAIN!?
steve45 said:
cool to see Toni in the mix to.
wouldn't want loab/solberg to get all the media.
those roads would be so hard to drive with the ice in the shodows and on slicks.
anyone know if the rules still aply that the teeams have to chose there tires a week in advance and only can have a limited number?
i never like that rule. tire limits are for amature spec class!
yep unfortunatly the rule is still in place, still 7 days in advance and has to be submitted before 18:00CET on the given date.bcd said:
except for a select few rallies such as monte where conitions are very unpredictable, i think the desicion has to be made before shakedown on such rallies. at least i think thats th way it is.
http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/568522310__WRC_reg_a.pdf
no suprize, LOAB WINS
BKQuill, freeridekid, Metal, mrbigisbudgood, ska todd got it right.
Monte Carlo - Retirements
1. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Xsara WRC A+ 3:37:53.7
2. Toni Gardemeister Ford Focus RS WRC 04 A+ 3:40:20.9 2:27.2 2:27.2
3. Gilles Panizzi Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05 A+ 3:40:53.4 32.5 2:59.7
4. Markko Martin Peugeot 307 WRC A+ 3:42:46.9 1:53.5 4:53.2
5. Marcus Gronholm Peugeot 307 WRC A+ 3:45:03.5 2:16.6 7:09.8
6. Manfred Stohl Citroen Xsara WRC A 3:45:34.6 31.1 7:40.9
7. Harri Rovanpera Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05 A+ 3:45:46.7 12.1 7:53.0
8. Roman Kresta Ford Focus RS WRC 04 A+* 3:46:52.2 1:05.5 8:58.5
9. Alexandre Bengue Skoda Fabia WRC A+* 3:47:46.4 54.2 9:52.7
10. Antony Warmbold Ford Focus RS WRC 04 A 3:51:24.0 3:37.6 13:30.3
11. Kris Meeke Citroen C2 J 3:57:43.2 6:19.2 19:49.5
12. Kosti Katajamaki Suzuki Ignis J 3:57:54.1 10.9 20:00.4
13. Alan Scorcioni Suzuki Ignis J 3:59:12.7 1:18.6 21:19.0
14. Daniel Sordo Citroen C2 J 4:00:34.1 1:21.4 22:40.4
15. Eamonn Boland Subaru Impreza WRC 03 A 4:01:03.3 29.2 23:09.6
16. Luca Betti Renault Clio J 4:01:13.2 9.9 23:19.5
17. Per-gunnar Andersson Suzuki Ignis J* 4:02:11.4 58.2 24:17.7
18. Stephane Sarrazin Subaru Impreza WRC 04 A+* 4:02:15.1 3.7 24:21.4
19. Pavel Valousek Suzuki Ignis J 4:02:26.4 11.3 24:32.7
20. Guy Wilks Suzuki Ignis J* 4:03:01.9 35.5 25:08.2
21. Xavier Pons Peugeot 206 WRC A 4:06:03.3 3:01.4 28:09.6
22. Martin Prokop Suzuki Ignis J 4:06:38.1 34.8 28:44.4
23. Mirco Baldacci Fiat Punto J* 4:09:54.1 3:16.0 32:00.4
24. Marco Cristoforetti Renault Clio A 4:14:59.3 5:05.2 37:05.6
25. Ricardo Errani Skoda Octavia WRC A 4:29:33.1 14:33.8 51:39.4
# Crew Car Reason
2 Duval-Prevot Citroen Xsara Wrc Went off road SS 6
5 Solberg-Mills Subaru Impreza Wrc Went off road SS12
11 Schwarz-Wicha Skoda Fabia Wrc Went off road SS7
36 Aava-Sikk Suzuki Ignis Withdrawn
61 Auriol-Giraudet Peugeot 206 Wrc Engine after SS 7
66 Barbara-Duthoit Subaru Impreza Wrc Mechanical SS9
BKQuill, freeridekid, Metal, mrbigisbudgood, ska todd got it right.
Monte Carlo - Retirements
1. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Xsara WRC A+ 3:37:53.7
2. Toni Gardemeister Ford Focus RS WRC 04 A+ 3:40:20.9 2:27.2 2:27.2
3. Gilles Panizzi Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05 A+ 3:40:53.4 32.5 2:59.7
4. Markko Martin Peugeot 307 WRC A+ 3:42:46.9 1:53.5 4:53.2
5. Marcus Gronholm Peugeot 307 WRC A+ 3:45:03.5 2:16.6 7:09.8
6. Manfred Stohl Citroen Xsara WRC A 3:45:34.6 31.1 7:40.9
7. Harri Rovanpera Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05 A+ 3:45:46.7 12.1 7:53.0
8. Roman Kresta Ford Focus RS WRC 04 A+* 3:46:52.2 1:05.5 8:58.5
9. Alexandre Bengue Skoda Fabia WRC A+* 3:47:46.4 54.2 9:52.7
10. Antony Warmbold Ford Focus RS WRC 04 A 3:51:24.0 3:37.6 13:30.3
11. Kris Meeke Citroen C2 J 3:57:43.2 6:19.2 19:49.5
12. Kosti Katajamaki Suzuki Ignis J 3:57:54.1 10.9 20:00.4
13. Alan Scorcioni Suzuki Ignis J 3:59:12.7 1:18.6 21:19.0
14. Daniel Sordo Citroen C2 J 4:00:34.1 1:21.4 22:40.4
15. Eamonn Boland Subaru Impreza WRC 03 A 4:01:03.3 29.2 23:09.6
16. Luca Betti Renault Clio J 4:01:13.2 9.9 23:19.5
17. Per-gunnar Andersson Suzuki Ignis J* 4:02:11.4 58.2 24:17.7
18. Stephane Sarrazin Subaru Impreza WRC 04 A+* 4:02:15.1 3.7 24:21.4
19. Pavel Valousek Suzuki Ignis J 4:02:26.4 11.3 24:32.7
20. Guy Wilks Suzuki Ignis J* 4:03:01.9 35.5 25:08.2
21. Xavier Pons Peugeot 206 WRC A 4:06:03.3 3:01.4 28:09.6
22. Martin Prokop Suzuki Ignis J 4:06:38.1 34.8 28:44.4
23. Mirco Baldacci Fiat Punto J* 4:09:54.1 3:16.0 32:00.4
24. Marco Cristoforetti Renault Clio A 4:14:59.3 5:05.2 37:05.6
25. Ricardo Errani Skoda Octavia WRC A 4:29:33.1 14:33.8 51:39.4
# Crew Car Reason
2 Duval-Prevot Citroen Xsara Wrc Went off road SS 6
5 Solberg-Mills Subaru Impreza Wrc Went off road SS12
11 Schwarz-Wicha Skoda Fabia Wrc Went off road SS7
36 Aava-Sikk Suzuki Ignis Withdrawn
61 Auriol-Giraudet Peugeot 206 Wrc Engine after SS 7
66 Barbara-Duthoit Subaru Impreza Wrc Mechanical SS9
i find it sickening that both solberg and gronholm went off in the same place due to spectators throwing snow onto the road right on the heavy breaking points.
i mean i can see what the spectators were thinking, 'lets make it more exciting' and 'they are professional rally drivers they should be able to cope with it', but this is playing with peoples lifes, its like scumbags sabotaging MTB trails by putting logs across the trail.
obviously it wasnt done with intent to harm but you'd think they'ed have a bit more common sence.
i mean i can see what the spectators were thinking, 'lets make it more exciting' and 'they are professional rally drivers they should be able to cope with it', but this is playing with peoples lifes, its like scumbags sabotaging MTB trails by putting logs across the trail.
obviously it wasnt done with intent to harm but you'd think they'ed have a bit more common sence.
just watched the hour long weekend review, the monte never fails to amaze me.
its just such a beautiful rally with so much history behind it.
great opener to the season.
stage 12 - col de tourini(sp?), breathtaking, there seems to be this amazing atmosphere on the stage, i'd love to go to the monte to spectate one year, shame about the snow incidents, but i suppose its nothing new.
i'm pleased with Kris meeke's performance, 1st place in JWRC, i still say he has the potential to go very far in WRC, he really has the natural ability that can take him to the top, he just needs to be given the oppertunity to prove his worth, Mcrae made a very good decision to back him.
its just such a beautiful rally with so much history behind it.
great opener to the season.
stage 12 - col de tourini(sp?), breathtaking, there seems to be this amazing atmosphere on the stage, i'd love to go to the monte to spectate one year, shame about the snow incidents, but i suppose its nothing new.
i'm pleased with Kris meeke's performance, 1st place in JWRC, i still say he has the potential to go very far in WRC, he really has the natural ability that can take him to the top, he just needs to be given the oppertunity to prove his worth, Mcrae made a very good decision to back him.
bcd said:
so who loved last nights coverage on SPEED?
i like the brit FEM a lot better than ralf scheen sp?
i think her the race sound were too soft. i like to hear
the tires, fans and motors more.
the spot were the fans put snow on the track sounded
like they do that every year to see the cars slid. drivers
who have done the monte B/F know about it. it was
stupid mistakes they caught out drivers on it. no foul play
i don't think.
now on day one when loab spun that was unexpected
for fans to do that there but anyone doing monte carlo
rally has to be prepaired for that.
there was a camera shot on day two where the cars
go by the camera and into some leaves,
NOW THAT WAS A GREAT SHOT!
Toni is driving that ford great and it will make for another
hungry driver, like marco martin last year.
HANS device? crap or good?
see you next year monte.
i like the brit FEM a lot better than ralf scheen sp?
i think her the race sound were too soft. i like to hear
the tires, fans and motors more.
the spot were the fans put snow on the track sounded
like they do that every year to see the cars slid. drivers
who have done the monte B/F know about it. it was
stupid mistakes they caught out drivers on it. no foul play
i don't think.
now on day one when loab spun that was unexpected
for fans to do that there but anyone doing monte carlo
rally has to be prepaired for that.
there was a camera shot on day two where the cars
go by the camera and into some leaves,
NOW THAT WAS A GREAT SHOT!
Toni is driving that ford great and it will make for another
hungry driver, like marco martin last year.
HANS device? crap or good?
see you next year monte.
i think its a great idea, any saftey improvements are a step forward, but they need to workout the problem.
in an interview with phil mills he was saying its just not suitable the way it is, especially for co-drivers, its very restricting making it akward to constanly be looking up and down, and side to side movement was just not happening.
its definitly doing its job well though, he was saying it worked perfectly when they put the car into the embankment when there brakes failed on day one.
so i say its a good idea but needs working on.