WTF is up with SC!?
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The 140mm hub was used on the pre 2005 V10s with a floater.Sherpa said:
You forgot the pre 2005 V10 with the 135mm quick release.
santacruz loves dem hub manufacturers
3 bikes 4 (or is it 5) hubs!!!!
thats better than the incomprehensible change from 31,6 to 30,9 seat post size.
btw1 WTB makes a hub that fits the v10. real light if im not mistaken.
btw2 the new v10 is hot.
3 bikes 4 (or is it 5) hubs!!!!
thats better than the incomprehensible change from 31,6 to 30,9 seat post size.
btw1 WTB makes a hub that fits the v10. real light if im not mistaken.
btw2 the new v10 is hot.
Wow this is all pretty funny. It's too bad semantics take second place to common usage. Anyway, my vp-free has a thru-axle type hub (yah, the axle slides right through the hub!) that bolts on via two bolts, one at each end. So, it's a bolt-on thru-axle. If that's not common usage, ok, but I'm sticking with it. It's still accurate, and different from a pinch style axle. The hub is the same but the axle is different, and depending on the frame you gotta ask for the right one. Ok? Pinch v. bolt-on. Same. Different.
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language is defined by usage, so saying that "semantics takes second place to common usage" is basically saying "i was wrong but i can't admit it". you definitely have a point that many through axles use bolts, but that's a far cry from making "thru axle" equivalent to "bolt-on axle".
The 140 was also used on older V10's with the TA kit (no floater). That is what I had on mine...I have a brand new V10 hub at home that I can't do sh|t with since it will ONLY work on older V10sChrisKring said:
Acadian said:The 140 was also used on older V10's with the TA kit (no floater). That is what I had on mine...I have a brand new V10 hub at home that I can't do sh|t with since it will ONLY work on older V10s
really?
you know, i checked the flange separation on the stock hügi FR hub for the new v10, and found out that spoke flange separation was pretty much identical to a busted 135x12mm atomlab thruaxle hub i had lying around.
that means (not surprisingly anyway) that the extra width the 150mm (or whatever the measurement is) has over a standard 135mm hub only goes towards a bigger space between the nondrive spokes and the nondrive dropout.
this in turn means that you could just put a cylindrical spacer in there and be able to use that 135mm or 140mm hub thruaxle hub on the new v10. you could also do one better and have a custom end cap machined, in any case there will be no functional difference.
another debate altogether is if going for a dishless wheel with narrow spacing between the spoke flanges makes for a stronger wheel than a dished but with a wider stance.
ya, the TA dropout that I got from SC (that replaces the floater) had a flanged on it, which I assume was like 10mm.vitox said:
so are you saying that if I ever get a bike that takes a 150mm rear hub, I could use the SC hub with a cylindrical spacer on the non-drive side? Wouldn't that cause some issue trying to get the disc brake rotor and caliper lined up tho?
here is my hub...and some V10 bits - you can see the droupout
Toshi said:
The very definition of language is based on usage. If, instead of using that : stupid : smilie, I had said "word", you would have known exactly what I meant, even though I was not actually labelling Toshi's post as a "word" now, was I? Thru-axle & bolt-on are two seperate, widely accepted definitions, regardless of what the semantics imply.
You can call your own hub whatever you want, hell, call it Suzy for all I care, but it's still not the correct terminology for it...
god, I'm having flashbacks to the "dual-crown tripple-clamp" arguments... :mumble:
I was wrong and Mike was right about the type of axle. Someone told me the new v10 was going to use the vp-free style rear, but apparently not. It's still the same hub, and both axles are thru-axles. Hope I didn't confuse anyone.
Remember phil and american classic sealed hubs that bolted on? Those are bolt-on style hubs. Go on calling a nutted rear axle a bolt-on if you want.
Ahh, this is driving me bolts. I mean nuts.
It's not nearly as hard to admit I was wrong as it is to admit Mike was right...something about his approach I guess. Could have avoided a lot by just saying something like, "Well, yeah, some bikes have a bolted thru-axle but the new v10 uses a pinch style. It's a 150x12 hub so your old hub should work, just make sure you have the right axle." That would have been helpful. Instead, his posts read like a 12 year old passing notes in detention.
Remember phil and american classic sealed hubs that bolted on? Those are bolt-on style hubs. Go on calling a nutted rear axle a bolt-on if you want.
Ahh, this is driving me bolts. I mean nuts.
It's not nearly as hard to admit I was wrong as it is to admit Mike was right...something about his approach I guess. Could have avoided a lot by just saying something like, "Well, yeah, some bikes have a bolted thru-axle but the new v10 uses a pinch style. It's a 150x12 hub so your old hub should work, just make sure you have the right axle." That would have been helpful. Instead, his posts read like a 12 year old passing notes in detention.
Yeah and I quit posting once MY POINT was made. And here you are still 12 hrs later.
fork or forks?dante said:
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...apparently, you're still here too.dhtahoe said:
Yeah Mike, you made your point. And when you eventually did I admitted I was wrong. But it took you about 7 or 8 posts to say anything helpful, and we had to wade through your dreck to get there.
And like BV said you're still here too. Like you are just about every day. Like a lot of us. I guess we're lame for that.
Clown.
And like BV said you're still here too. Like you are just about every day. Like a lot of us. I guess we're lame for that.
Clown.
I am 90% sure that the 140mm SC hub can be converted to 135 12mm thru axle with the right stuff from hadley. From memory the hub body is exactly the same.Acadian said:The 140 was also used on older V10's with the TA kit (no floater). That is what I had on mine...I have a brand new V10 hub at home that I can't do sh|t with since it will ONLY work on older V10s
-Matt
Ha!Sherpa said:
I only have 127 posts here, you only get credibility around here when you hit 2000 posts and get a custom title
Watch what you say as well, im from Australia and i will set me pet koala bear loose on you mofo
well you fall in the 10% - wrong.Cave Dweller said:
I called Mike and Susan, there is nothing you can do to that hub to convert it. the body is made especially for SC.
good point h adnt thought of that, probably will need spacers, luckily i have a ton of AC spacers that will probably do the trick if i ever need to do that mod.Acadian said: