I'd prefer not to be mutually destroyed tbh.Mutual assured destruction
I'd prefer not to be mutually destroyed tbh.Mutual assured destruction
Do you think the nuke configuration of the new hypersonic has been worked out yet?Putin might be able to squeeze one or two off but they wont go far, I would suspect his first launch would be from a sub in the Barents sea, it would then be detected by one of the two 24 hour AWAX flights doing round robins right now around the atlantic and pacific and intercepted before it got to international waters. I am willing to bet he knows if he launched from his mainland it would be intercepted over his own yard thus the fallout would be akin to shitting where you eat. Either way, his missles dont have the speed or range compared to our counter defenses. Between our subs, carrier groups and aircraft it is a waiting game if you ask me.
Judging by how is gear is working out in ukraine right I doubt it, even if it was up and running at hyper our x51 would catch themDo you think the nuke configuration of the hypersonic worked out yet?
Range is not the greatest but...
You should not have given up Czechoslovakia to Hitler in 1938. This is all downstream consequences of being a pussy.I'd prefer not to be mutually destroyed tbh.
This got me thinking... Nobody under the age of ~77 was alive the last time a nuke was used during armed conflict.I got roped into a "spirited" conversation (over beers) about the pros and cons of nuking Moscow preemptively... honestly surprised by the overwhelming support of the idea, citing the inevitability of world war at this point.
Sigh. Fuck.
You should not have given up Czechoslovakia to Hitler in 1938. This is all downstream consequences of being a pussy.
tell me your friends are morons without actually..........I got roped into a "spirited" conversation (over beers) about the pros and cons of nuking Moscow preemptively... honestly surprised by the overwhelming support of the idea, citing the inevitability of world war at this point.
Sigh. Fuck.
Ummm…that entire ‘news’ site is gobbledygook.
given how how early war coverage typically goes, it could also mean he's actually deadUmmm…that entire ‘news’ site is gobbledygook.
Also 5-10k out if you look carefully I see just bellow high points more than a few tracks leading to small clearings right about where anti air would want to be.....The roads are built as VFR strips with taxi ways, nobody from the cabinet is ever driving there. If you pan out there are other multiple strips about 10-20km away down the road to the south and west
*Dr Strangelove has entered the chat room*I thought a few of those sections looked pretty damn straight
Is there a decent source for him or his family retreating? Sounds like the only one saying that at this point is a nutty professor known for making shit up.
Perspective for you I guess.I got roped into a "spirited" conversation (over beers) about the pros and cons of nuking Moscow preemptively... honestly surprised by the overwhelming support of the idea, citing the inevitability of world war at this point.
Sigh. Fuck.
I must say that I find the calls for direct Nato involvement pretty disturbing and people seem to get a bit carried away on the gross incompetence of the Russian military as portrayed by the expertly conducted information politics from the Ukrainians.Perspective for you I guess.
So traditionally the monkey politics forum has been a "seething cess pit of left wing hand ringers & "snowflakes" ".... or something like that.
Over the last 2 weeks or so the seething cess pit has basically pivoted into full military fetish mode "Oooh I could go a B52, but I'd be thinking of an A10...."
So the general public being by and large more centrist or right than this lil echo chamber it would be expected for that pivot to be carried over to them as well.
Nuke Moscow & make it worse?
I am Jacks total lack of fucking surprise.
Maybe it is time to learn a bit about that claim before casting stones. That law banning public defense of genocides was introduced many years ago, mainly to curb nazi demonstrations and deniers of holocaust, Roma genocide or communist pogroms. I didn’t know it existed until know, and I need to investigate more about its origins.I must say that I find the calls for direct Nato involvement pretty disturbing and people seem to get a bit carried away on the gross incompetence of the Russian military as portrayed by the expertly conducted information politics from the Ukrainians.
I can only speak for myself here: I'm not cheering for war, but I'm glad as fuck that this has lead to a hopefully lasting pivot on defense policy in Europe. Shame that it comes 15 years too late and that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians will die for Europe and especially Germany to come to the realization that they need to be able to defend themselves.
My perception in Europe is that people rallye behind Ukraine and are confident of being on the right side while also being genuinely scared of an escalation. The eastern Europeans are hardly lusting for war but will be glad that the concerns they have raised for decades are being taken seriously now.
What drives me up the wall is self satisfaction and punitive measures that encroach on civil liberties to score some PR points on dubious legal basis. For instance, the Munich Philarmonic just fired its Russian star conductor for not sufficiently distancing himself from Putin. And this type of thing is the exact illiberal overreaction that should be avoided:
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I am talking about the irresponsible reporting on the potential that someone could be prosecuted by an older law by framing it a some kind of reaction to the invasion.Maybe it is time to learn a bit about that claim before casting stones. That law banning public defense of genocides was introduced many years ago, mainly to curb nazi demonstrations and deniers of holocaust, Roma genocide or communist pogroms. I didn’t know it existed until know, and I need to investigate more about its origins.
Czechia Mulls Penalising Support of Ukraine Invasion
The Czech Republic's chief prosecutor has warned that expressing support for Russia’s attack on Ukraine could be a criminal offence, punishable by imprisonment.balkaninsight.com
I'm with @6thElement on this, given that I live in an area that's definitely in the top 3 Russia "To nuke" spots. If we could not preemptively nuke another country, again, that would be great. The fetishizing of this whole mess is more than a tad disturbing.Perspective for you I guess.
So traditionally the monkey politics forum has been a "seething cess pit of left wing hand ringers & "snowflakes" ".... or something like that.
Over the last 2 weeks or so the seething cess pit has basically pivoted into full military fetish mode "Oooh I could go a B52, but I'd be thinking of an A10...."
So the general public being by and large more centrist or right than this lil echo chamber it would be expected for that pivot to be carried over to them as well.
Nuke Moscow & make it worse?
I am Jacks total lack of fucking surprise.
It ain't like humans are rational.Perspective for you I guess.
So traditionally the monkey politics forum has been a "seething cess pit of left wing hand ringers & "snowflakes" ".... or something like that.
Over the last 2 weeks or so the seething cess pit has basically pivoted into full military fetish mode "Oooh I could go a B52, but I'd be thinking of an A10...."
So the general public being by and large more centrist or right than this lil echo chamber it would be expected for that pivot to be carried over to them as well.
Nuke Moscow & make it worse?
I am Jacks total lack of fucking surprise.
By whom, Visegrad 24? Whether I agree with that post or not, I don't think it is a big deal. "you may be prosecuted for supporting genocide in Ukraine", boo fucking hoo. Let's focus on the real bad things still going on instead, like the Germans still profiteering from and lobbying for Putin (hello Mr. Schroeder), or the EU banks that keep protecting their russian interests by excluding the biggest russian banks like Sberbank from the SWIFT expulsion. It is still a joke.I am talking about the irresponsible reporting on the potential that someone could be prosecuted by an older law by framing it a some kind of reaction to the invasion.
Yes, I'm talking about that post in the context of public sentiment, since that is what DaveW, who I was replying to, was talking about. Regarding Schröder and his ilk, I'll be the first to shit on them and of course you are right: the likes of him are still sitting pretty on all the money they made from directly supporting Putin's regime, while we are seeing some meaningless publicity stunts going after public figures and news outlets. People like Fillon, Schröder and a bunch of second rate politicians have done far more damage and legitimized Putin in a way that Russia Today could only dream of. Put them on a sanctions list and freeze their assets.By whom, Visegrad 24? Whether I agree with that post or not, I don't think it is a big deal. "you may be prosecuted for supporting genocide in Ukraine", boo fucking hoo. Let's focus on the real bad things still going on instead, like the Germans still profiteering from and lobbying for Putin (hello Mr. Schroeder), or the EU banks that keep protecting their russian interests by excluding the biggest russian banks like Sberbank from the SWIFT expulsion. It is still a joke.
I'm definitely not cheering for war. If it escalates, nukes will be used and that's not ending well for anyone on the planet.I can only speak for myself here: I'm not cheering for war, but I'm glad as fuck that this has lead to a hopefully lasting pivot on defense policy in Europe. Shame that it comes 15 years too late and that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians will die for Europe and especially Germany to come to the realization that they need to be able to defend themselves.
yeah, it seems he has quite the little nest up there in those hills and has thought of everything as a paranoid criminal would. I sure there are plenty of military/defense rigs in those barns and sheds.Also 5-10k out if you look carefully I see just bellow high points more than a few tracks leading to small clearings right about where anti air would want to be.....
yea, the perspective on it is a little different if you frame the "invasion" as terrorists attacks.By whom, Visegrad 24? Whether I agree with that post or not, I don't think it is a big deal. "you may be prosecuted for supporting genocide in Ukraine", boo fucking hoo. Let's focus on the real bad things still going on instead, like the Germans still profiteering from and lobbying for Putin (hello Mr. Schroeder), or the EU banks that keep protecting their russian interests by excluding the biggest russian banks like Sberbank from the SWIFT expulsion. It is still a joke.
No shit sherlock, how do people like this think they are smart?
sometimes the obvious needs to be stated?No shit sherlock, how do people like this think they are smart?
I guess some peeps may need thatsometimes the obvious needs to be stated?
I'd laugh if anything in this was funny
I said that a couple days ago, cant hide the dead.Russian Troop Deaths Expose a Potential Weakness of Putin’s Strategy (Published 2022)
Videos and photos show the bodies of soldiers left behind on the battlefield, officials say, and the charred remains of tanks and armored vehicles.www.nytimes.com