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StiHacka

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Opinion | How Germany Became Putin’s Enabler - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Unfortunately, Germany’s political leaders, including Chancellor Olaf Scholz, have taken the side of the scaremongers. The revelations of Russian atrocities in Ukraine have led to grudging acknowledgments that something must be done, but still not much sense of urgency.

What strikes me — a parallel that for some reason I haven’t seen many people drawing — is the contrast between Germany’s current reluctance to make moderate sacrifices, even in the face of horrific war crimes, and the immense sacrifices Germany demanded of other countries during the European debt crisis a decade ago.
 

Westy

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Opinion | How Germany Became Putin’s Enabler - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Unfortunately, Germany’s political leaders, including Chancellor Olaf Scholz, have taken the side of the scaremongers. The revelations of Russian atrocities in Ukraine have led to grudging acknowledgments that something must be done, but still not much sense of urgency.

What strikes me — a parallel that for some reason I haven’t seen many people drawing — is the contrast between Germany’s current reluctance to make moderate sacrifices, even in the face of horrific war crimes, and the immense sacrifices Germany demanded of other countries during the European debt crisis a decade ago.

I mean if others will step up you don't have to and can make more money in the process. Also will be easier to snuggle back up to Putin if he wins the war. Germany is making alls the right moves if you have no sense of shame.
 

StiHacka

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Another good one by Galeev


So what do we have after this Bolshevik de-Abrahamization? Paradoxically, getting rid of Abrahamic values, Russia didn't move forward. It has fallen millennia back. Being violently de-Christianized Russia didn't enter the era of progress and reason. Instead it fall back to the Neolith. Russian cult of WWII is a form of a neolithic ancestral cult. It is thoroughly cleansed from any Abrahamic values and centered around the worship of the dead.

WWII cult became Russian state religion for two reasons. First, people didn't believe in the bright future anymore. When Soviets were sincerely building Communism, WWII wasn't worshipped. But by the times of Brezhnev nobody believed we are building Communism or any future at all. If a country is building its future, people will be obsessed with it. But if we don't, then we'll be obsessed by the past. WWII cult is literally the past devouring the future. It's a form of ritual cannibalism interwoven into the ancestral cult.

Russian society is indeed highly tolerant to war casualties in Z-context. That's not wrong. But who exactly is tolerant to casualties? The elderly. Fascist warmongering dead worshipping babushkas and dedushkas are more than willing to sacrifice their youngsters for the Victory.

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I'll clarify: the problem is not in Putin. Neither it is in Navalny. The problem is in imperial structure of Russia and in its imperialist mindset. Any ideology be it Orthodoxy, Communism, Liberalism will be weaponised by the metropoly to dominate and discipline its colonies. <-
A-men!
 
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Sandro

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Good thread, painful though. Operation Danube cast my country to dark ages for 30 years.

Good time to remind everyone how long it took after the public revolts in Czechoslovakia, Hungary and the GDR until their people were actually free and how repressive Moscow and its proxy regimes turned during those lost decades, quashing all those reforms aiming for a more humane form of socialism.
And now look how long it took Moscow to decide that all the people living in those lands only exist at Russia’s mercy.
 

Westy

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Opinion | How Germany Became Putin’s Enabler - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Unfortunately, Germany’s political leaders, including Chancellor Olaf Scholz, have taken the side of the scaremongers. The revelations of Russian atrocities in Ukraine have led to grudging acknowledgments that something must be done, but still not much sense of urgency.

What strikes me — a parallel that for some reason I haven’t seen many people drawing — is the contrast between Germany’s current reluctance to make moderate sacrifices, even in the face of horrific war crimes, and the immense sacrifices Germany demanded of other countries during the European debt crisis a decade ago.

It seems like there is a simple solution. If people stopped buying products from Germany they wouldn't need Russian energy to make them.
 

StiHacka

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It seems like there is a simple solution. If people stopped buying products from Germany they wouldn't need Russian energy to make them.
Germany made the rest of Europe its biatch - manufacturing parts for German products so they can buy them later with a hefty margin applied. See what happened to the Greeks when they refused to play ball.
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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It seems like there is a simple solution. If people stopped buying products from Germany they wouldn't need Russian energy to make them.
If we can get China to just copy everything that Germany makes, then we are go to go?
 

Westy

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Reports that Russia used chemical weapons in Mariupol. If confirmed it is safe to say that the Russians will deny it and claim they gassed themselves.
 

StiHacka

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