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Sandro

Sandro

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StiHacka said:
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This is already 2 months old and translated from German, but very much related:


How dare these Ukrainians live such a happy life? - About the envy and anger and revenge of Russia's women

In view of the war against Ukraine, which is being waged with extreme brutality, there is currently a lot of talk about toxic Russian masculinity. The role of Russian women as willing accomplices is often overlooked.

The fact that the Russian state does not care at all about every one of its citizens who dies in its bloody war against Ukraine is not at all surprising: Mother Russia has always been extremely grim to her children.

What is particularly striking is the callousness of real mothers towards their sons who have become prisoners of war. In dozens of Ukrainian anti-propaganda videos in which Russian fighters call their mothers at home, they express neither horror nor compassion. Their expressions are indifferent, cold and even reproachful, as if they are angry or upset.

Some of them even begin to argue vehemently about the real situation in Ukraine after it has been explained to them by their sons: that the "special operation" is an invasion and war crimes are being committed en masse by Russian soldiers. These women are too much under the influence of the state propaganda, and they are too afraid or too uneducated to contradict the official lies about Russian warriors who are supposed to liberate the "brotherly people" of Ukrainians from the "Nazis".

Sad and a little proud

It is difficult for a normal person to understand what is behind this behavior. I follow various regional Russian chats where participants wallow in aggressively murderous slogans against Ukrainians. The years of indoctrination by the Russian media, which incessantly spread hatred against the all-too-freedom-loving neighbors, was not in vain. Portraits of the victims of this senseless and nefarious war of aggression are posted, and the comments of women, acquaintances and non-acquaintances are saddened and yet a little proud. There are no reservations about their own state, which has decreed this ticking off of the names of the fallen.

These women simply accept the death of their loved ones as fate; some of them at least have the courage to discuss possible financial compensation for the fallen. This reminds me of the widows of paratroopers from Pskov who died in Ukraine in 2014, when Putin kept denying the presence of Russian troops in the rebellious country: "They are not there," he said. Widows who then began speaking to journalists were quickly silenced with threats and money. They accepted payment and left their husbands to oblivion. Even their graves remained nameless.

The conversations of Russian soldiers with their mothers, girlfriends and wives, recorded by the Ukrainians, are even more horrific. They all think their calls are private, and so nothing holds them back. Bestial instincts come out, open and undisguised. For one thing, they all speak in the lowest and most vile obscenities, unprintable and even untranslatable. On the other hand, not only the form but also the content of the conversations is abominable. For example, a mother gets upset when she hears that her son is ready to shoot himself and starts lamenting that the Russians are too lame with their violence and are sparing the civilians: "What are they waiting for, f***? Let them f*** them! They themselves have no f***ing sympathy for [the civilians], why should ours wait for them to evacuate?"

Another woman is delighted when her husband tells her that her daughter sent him a letter from school wishing that he would kill all Ukrainians. She laughs and says, "Exactly! She even worded it right, didn't she?" Another cheers up her husband with tender words when she hears that he has looted cosmetics for her and his mother-in-law. "Sofia will go to study," she says of her daughter. "She needs a f***ing laptop, too. Get together everything you can, Andrei!" Another coquettishly asks her boyfriend to steal a cell phone from a local and call her every day.

Women's voices look forward to the looted goods soaked in innocent blood, and at times it seems that they wait for these stolen goods - like kitchen mixers or washing machines - even more greedily than they do for their husbands.


The total dehumanization

The women know very well that their husbands rob and kill families, wives and children, but they are so dehumanized, so devoid of compassion, that they feel only envy and anger. How dare these Ukrainians live such affluent lives and own such furniture, houses and gardens! They should be dragged into the dirt and misery that make up "the Russian world" to which they "historically" belong. Their voices tremble when they comment on their husbands' descriptions of the happiness and prosperity of Ukrainians.

When they hear about Russian soldiers raping or executing people, some of them sigh with grief, but others immediately start shouting, "Serves them right, they're all Nazis!" One woman even gives her husband a shocking instruction:

"Go ahead, rape Ukrainian women, okay? But don't tell me about it. Do you understand?" (Laughter.)

"Rape - and tell you nothing?"

"Yes, so I don't know about anything. And why not?" (Laughter.)

"You really allow me, don't you?"

"Yes, I'm allowing you. But use protection."

"All right."

To be sure, any war psychologist can offer explanations for why so many combatants so quickly abandon their ethical principles and turn into monsters driven by a mixture of sexuality and aggression. But why do women engage in this perversity so eagerly, encouraging their men and even instigating them to cross red lines?

Some will say that this blood lust and hatred is a very unfeminine attitude, but I would suggest that this behavior is an expression of an iron-fisted patriarchy. A marauders who loot, plunder, besmirch the enemy and bring booty home is considered a brave breadwinner in it. The Russian state, with its downright fascist imperial ideology, has given its poor, indolent and humiliated masses carte blanche to take revenge for their misery at the expense of free-thinking, actively shaping their lives and European-minded people.
Humiliation and domestic violence

The core of the Russian system has long consisted of armed men serving other armed men. The number of law enforcers and power bearers with batons now exceeds their number in the USSR, even though Russia's population is half that size. Women are brought up to hate other women and to regard feminism as a dirty word, a mental illness arising from their own lack of success with men. (I heard from a woman that it is very unseemly for a woman to speak out against war, one should not mouth the word "war," which, by the way, is in accordance with the prevailing censorship).

Most Russian women live in a paradigm of total humiliation and domestic violence - and yet are far from thinking about their own rights. All the more so because the system also deprives men of their individuality and subjectivity. Today's Russia is a paternalistic authoritarian system in which the radius of one's own decisions and responsibility is rapidly shrinking and dwindling.

It is tempting to see all of Russian society as victims, but even if this is partially true, it should not relieve us of the task of taking collective responsibility for the regime's outrages, of which this war is one.

Putin and many of his compadres are obviously sexist, as can be seen from their jokes and salacious remarks. Yet they often and willingly put women in the front row. They are the ones who have taken infamous or questionable actions such as the annexation of Crimea (Valentina Matviyenko, the chairwoman of the upper house of the so-called parliament), the rescission of Putin's term as president (the first female cosmonaut, Valentina Tereshkova), the introduction of laws allowing security services to monitor and store phone calls, emails and messages of citizens (the deputy Irina Yarovaya), or being allowed to officially announce or promulgate anti-LGBT laws (the deputy Yelena Misulina).

On the other hand, women form the most active part of Russia's tiny civil society - they spearhead political activism. On the eve of the Ukraine war, a small group of women launched the "soft power" movement: writing collective letters against the war and urging mothers who have lost their soldier sons to protest despite threats of arrest and charges.

There is also a feminist anti-war movement that anonymously calls on women across the country to replace price tags in stores with information about the mass killings in Ukraine, to decorate monuments to famous Ukrainians in Russia with flowers, and to place anti-war stickers all over cities. There exist brave women, like the mother of a killed soldier from Buryatia, who lonely holds vigils demanding an end to the war. I have participated in many political protests over the years, and most of the participants have been women.

In sharp contrast to traditionalism, according to whose rules a good mother sends her sons to war and, when they fall, gives birth to new ones, feminism in Russia has dedicated itself to the struggle for peace. Feminists form a small minority, and yet they have no doubt that they are on the way to eventually giving the majority of women more rights.

Alissa Ganiyeva lived in Moscow as a writer and literary critic. She has since left Russia. Her most recent novel in German, "Verletzte Gefühle," was published by Wieser.
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StiHacka

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Here's a pretty interesting analysis of Macron's and Scholz's recent visit to Kyiv. It paints it as a watershed moment in the conflict as Macron and Scholz finally abandoned their plans for "peaceful end via negotiations"; destroying russkies diplomatic efforts and hopes to normalize the situation. I truly hope the author is correct in his assessment of the situation.

It's in Czech but perhaps machine-translatable well enough to English.
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StiHacka

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Westy said:
khpg.org

Chief Russian propagandist: “All our hope is pinned on famine”

Kremlin propaganda chief Margarita Simonyan claimed to be simply relaying a ‘joke, or exclamation’ she had heard from several people when, on 17 June, she told Putin that “All hope is pinned on famine”.
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And she's not even russian, bitch, or as they Serbs say Gori su poturčenjaci nego Turci.

In other news, perhaps something really changed in Germany and France recently, thank @FSM.

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Westy

Westy

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StiHacka said:
And she's not even russian, bitch, or as they Serbs say Gori su poturčenjaci nego Turci.

In other news, perhaps something really changed in Germany and France recently, thank @FSM.

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Sholz has been saying promising things from day one. It is the doing part that has been the issue.

Check is in the mail

If he was less of a servile dipshit he should be supporting Ukraine as a way to weaken Russia and make them more dependent on Germany than the other way around.
 
Westy

Westy

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StiHacka said:
I know. But at least they stopped coercing UA into another Munich agreement for now.

In other news, this is a very interesting development.

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In Putin Russia you can be killed by the enemies of Putin or by Putin.

That being said it sounds like a resistance movement is forming within occupied areas, with a Russian general killed and many Ukrainian collaborators getting done blowed up.
 
Westy

Westy

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StiHacka said:
Time to start returning the favors.
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The US announced that they will be providing Ukraine modern air defence systems. A little late but should help to prevent this in the future. Let's see what gets there first, the US systems or what Germany promised months ago.
 
Westy

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Another Russian Gazprom executive woke up dead in his swimming pool with some lead weights in his head. Clearly just a tragic accident.
 
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