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This conflict is reshaping Europe in many different ways.
Worked great last time, what are you worried about?This conflict is reshaping Europe in many different ways.
If Ukraine loses this war. it will be because of leaders like Scholz who took the easy way out. Ten years from now when Russia is saying Poland and Germany were always part of Russia, who will be willing to help Germany when they themselves showed no resolve when Ukraine was in need?While I think western countries should send MBTs to Ukraine, I also respect Scholz for actually following what the majority of his constituents want. He is the chancellor of Germany and is obliged to execute the will of the German population and not what Ukraine's or Poland's government wants him to do. This is called democracy, something e.g. Poland, Hungary and the US should try, it is great!
It is not like the US is sending any MBTs to Ukraine either. Why not?If Ukraine loses this war. it will be because of leaders like Scholz who took the easy way out. Ten years from now when Russia is saying Poland and Germany were always part of Russia, who will be willing to help Germany when they themselves showed no resolve when Ukraine was in need?
Boo fucking hoo. Still having wet dreams about the soviet revolution?If it is kicking the Russians out of Ukraine, do you really think Russia will accept this and not launch a full (nuclear) attack against all allies of Ukraine?
NSDAP called, it wants its bad propaganda back.This is called democracy, something e.g. Poland, Hungary and the US should try, it is great!
Even if it is the public's will, it is the waffling, excuse making, and generally hiding behind the US's skirt that just stinks of weakness in leadership and invites mocking. And that has been consistent beyond the subject of tanks. Not only is it a bad look for Germany it gives Russia fuel to think it can generate chaos and mistrust between NATO allies and more likely to achieve its goals.Why did no one tell me we where having plebiscites on these issues? The public is split pretty evenly on the issue, that’s where some actual leadership would come in. Given that the country has been living a in a blissfully complacent state of smug pseudo pacifism under a US security umbrella for decades, 50/50 is actually rather encouraging. And it would be sooo easy to justify given Germany‘s and Russia’s crimes in these very lands and the irreparable damage being done to the country’s alliances and international standing. Historical responsibility and all that jazz.
It is actually Rheinmetall that owns the older generation tanks that potentially will be delivered. Same deal as when you trade in your used car. So not sure that the military has access to all that info.Even if it is the public's will, it is the waffling, excuse making, and generally hiding behind the US's skirt that just stinks of weakness in leadership and invites mocking. And that has been consistent beyond the subject of tanks. Not only is it a bad look for Germany it gives Russia fuel to think it can generate chaos and mistrust between NATO allies and more likely to achieve its goals.
Does the German military not have an ERP system where they can just look up their inventory without a public display of clip board carriers hunting through people't attics pressuring Sholz to make a decision?
Report: Lambrecht is said to have banned leopard inventory shortly before resigning - Stay Connected with Austin’s Top Stories
The new Federal Defense Minister Boris Pistorius (SPD) on Friday first ordered an examination of the stocks of Leopard tanks for a possible delivery towww.kxan36news.com
It is actually Rheinmetall that owns the older generation tanks that potentially will be delivered. Same deal as when you trade in your used car. So not sure that the military has access to all that info.
Germany generating chaos and mistrust between NATO allies? Are you kidding? You know that the current polish government is so anti-german that they demand reparations just to get reelected?
Poland pressures Germany on war reparations – DW – 01/07/2023
Following Germany's latest refusal to pay war reparations to Poland, Polish officials are calling on the US and the UN for support. The government also aims to have its demands "clarified" to Germans.www.dw.com
Which is bogus, as this has been settled with the 1990 Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany that the Polish government never objected against.
At the same time they dismantel their democracy and have a political direction that is right-winged Republican/fundamental Christian and anti-EU. Them, Hungary and other Eastern European countries did not help at all with the Syrian refugee crisis because....you know....muslims. Just because they now do good things for Ukraine does not make them saints.
Funny that you are calling others names. Your posts on here when you spread hate towards Russians, celebrate videos where Russians get killed in and taking a no-compromise stand against anything Russian sounds a lot how Nazis have portrait the "enemy". There is nothing to cheer about when people get killed, even if it is people you do not like. Generalizations about races and nations never led to positive things.NSDAP called, it wants its bad propaganda back.
Yeah, they care about free travel in the EU and subsidies to their economy. But hey, democratic European spirit is not important as long as they get the money.Say what you will, it least it is an ethos.
You sound *exactly* like my russian friend who lives a comfy life outside of russia, who keeps using European values as an argument ad absurdum when talking about the lives of common russian nowadays, who instantly descends into whataboutism and the bads of generalizations against her people, but who has done exactly nothing in her entire life to change the course of her nation or country. But hey, she gives me at least five quotes from russian poets and writers about the plight of russia everytime we meet, because that apparently absolves the russians from any responsibility for their own destiny.Funny that you are calling others names. Your posts on here when you spread hate towards Russians, celebrate videos where Russians get killed in and taking a no-compromise stand against anything Russian sounds a lot how Nazis have portrait the "enemy". There is nothing to cheer about when people get killed, even if it is people you do not like. Generalizations about races and nations never led to positive things.
Wow dude! You are as fucked up as the Russians.I'll be cheering for every dead russian aggressor and rapist on the UKR land and hope that the country that is so dear to you ceases to exist as we've known it for centuries, for the better of this world, soon.
Every dead russian soldier or mercenary == hundreds or thousands of saved Ukraininan lives that would have been ruined by russkie genocide otherwise. The russians have a choice to leave and go home, the Ukrainians don't.Wow dude! You are as fucked up as the Russians.
Killing humans is never something to celebrate, no matter what they have done. Otherwise you are morally not better than them.
tell it to jesusKilling humans is never something to celebrate, no matter what they have done.
Thank you for your service! I didn't know that you are at the front line in Ukraine. Thought you were just a keyboard warrior, but respect for putting your life on the line!
Maybe you want to check your math here.Every dead russian soldier or mercenary == hundreds or thousands of saved Ukraininan lives that would have been ruined by russkie genocide otherwise. The russians have a choice to leave and go home, the Ukrainians don't.
Are all germans as annoying and facsist enabling as this?Thank you for your service! I didn't know that you are at the front line in Ukraine. Thought you were just a keyboard warrior, but respect for putting your life on the line!
I am not the one that wants to kill people because of their passport or race, StiHacka is.Are all germans as annoying and facsist enabling as this?
because of their passport or race
My English might be failing me, but:You know damn well that's not why
You're ignoring the important part there budMy English might be failing me, but:
"I'll be cheering for every dead russian aggressor and rapist on the UKR land and hope that the country that is so dear to you ceases to exist as we've known it for centuries, for the better of this world, soon."
You might disagree, but killing humans is never a solution to anything!!!
Some of us are just pedantic.Are all germans as annoying and facsist enabling as this?
Some of us are just pedantic.
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Told y‘all, but everybody had to get all worked up.
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OK, I'll bite...My English might be failing me, but:
"I'll be cheering for every dead russian aggressor and rapist on the UKR land and hope that the country that is so dear to you ceases to exist as we've known it for centuries, for the better of this world, soon."
You might disagree, but killing humans is never a solution to anything!!!