Ok, so you live in Charlotte, you ride in your local parks most of the time and you go to Pisgah a few times per year. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the kind of climbing you do in your local trail is not real climbing. Your GPS is going to give you a nice number after a few miles, but you should know that's not the real deal.
See the threads above about trail access.
Dressed up? to commute on an Ebike? Err.. What for exactly?
The same people write shit like that then whinge when a dude passes them on a 250cc moto on the back wheel before bombing down the trail.
I'm formulating a theory about why lazy Spanards like e-bikes. It has something to do with siesta and not really getting much done as a country since that one time a few hundred years ago when you had an empire (except the time you were on the wrong side of a world war).
Good work! Marin really needs more kooks on e-bikes putting in laps on the illegal trails. No trail use issues in that area.
E-bike commuting is completely different and quite respectable. As long as you're not mowing down grandmas on the cycle paths.
Smells like you're trolling here, but if not, it's pretty sad that the best part of your ride was your electronic advantage over other riders.
Ummmm, I wasn't serious about competing on climbs with people on acoustic bikes while riding my e-bike.Smells like you're trolling here, but if not, it's pretty sad that the best part of your ride was your electronic advantage over other riders.
Pretty hollow victory there champ.
I can see the fun in doing three times the distance in the same time. Sounds like a good workout and more fun downhill trails to me. But I don't see the fun in winning an unfair, imaginary battle with other people out there doing their thing. That's just a dickhead attitude that has little to do with what I enjoy about riding.
Like driving a car...
yeah I know that in fantasy world internet ridemonkey land, nobody has jobs or kids or any responsibilities whatsoever...so the thought of a 90 minute commute through 9 feet of mud and an extra 5 mile climb to shred gnar for 10 minutes is just fine...but for a few of us (those with kids and real jobs) we need to make sure A) we get there safely B) we get home safely and C) we get there in relative convenience. A and B kind of prohibit me from riding through many months of the year (basically any winter month and many months when school is in session [asshole drivers]) and C means I need to be able to get to work without being too smelly and I need to get home from work in time to get the kids from summer camps or daycare.
Adding 250W to my output on one local climb takes me from 48 minutes (lot to bench at White Ranch) to sub-20 minutes. That’s taking me from 5174 / 6726 on that climb to tied with KOM, basically. That’s a big difference, certainly enough to make it worth the extra 15 lbs on the bike itself.
assuming you're dragging brakes on every descent, sure.
Not sure I understand this. I don’t feel the bike’s holding me back on the descent, either.
then good for you. some of us have been downhilling long enough that we remember the era of 45lb+ DH bikes and all i can say on that subject is...
As Gary has pointed out time and time before, with a mid drive e-bike the extra weight is centered around or just above the bottom bracket. I can still bunny hop it just fine.then good for you. some of us have been downhilling long enough that we remember the era of 45lb+ DH bikes and all i can say on that subject is...
15 pounds is still 15 pounds, even if it's not unsprung weight.
why did you ever downhill then if you never liked it?
where'd i say i didn't like? my comment was to imply that i'm not going back there.
nope, again, where'd i say that? i was making a subtle dig at toshi that just because he doesn't notice the difference, doesn't mean that there isn't one.
I notice the difference. It just isn’t that big of a deal, whereas the difference in climbing is immense.
