YAY, E-bikes!
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Don't really agree.
Fancy E-road bikes are sub 11kg (ie. not too bad and handle pretty nicely) and have subtle assist rather than massive torque (like most E-hardtails) so they zip along the flat ABOVE the assist but allow the rider to get some assistance on every climb (sub 15mph)
The thing I love most about my proper road bike is it's nimbleness and ease to accelerate under my own power. It's actually faster in short sharp accelerations and short sharp climbs than either of my Shimano Steps motor Emtbs.
My commuter is an E-hardtail with slicks
It's 20kg and being a hardtail all that extra weight makes it ride like a dead pig and kills pretty much all the handling traits I love about hardtails. It is quick though.
But the whole point in buying it wasn't to go any faster but to allow me to ride to work in the same time I could on my roadbike but wearing civvies and not arrive sweaty Vs. full lycra and soaked with sweat.
That's exactly what I experienced on my 72yrs old Dad's e-HT - fun to fly up fireroads with 25 km/h and not even start to sweat doing it, but damn, a pig on the descents and horribly underpowerd brakes. Had some moments on a narrow, steep and rooty singletrail.
He enjoys it a lot, going to +1500m of altitude alpine sheds with his old buddies, enjoy a beer and some lunch and roll back home.
Only e-bike i ever rode for an extended period was a hardtail. It was perfectly fine and dare I say fun as a commuter on bike paths, but take it even slightly off road or point it downhill and it became a nightmare with absolutely no inclination to alter its direction or speed.
As shimano steps E-HTs go mine is one of the lightest you'd find at 44lb and it's actually ok off road but I've been riding inadequate hardtails with shit tyres and brakes down technical descents all my life so i'm used to having "moments"
. it's just the playfulness I love a hardtail to have that's missing.Brakes on mine are if anything overkill. (203mm 4 pot Shimanos).
Derestricted and running a 38T ring it's pretty much the same speed as I would be on my roadbike going for it lycra'd up at 10TT pace on the commute. (Yeah. fuck that 8 times a week)
Two F-ing E-scooters on my commute home yesterday. One on the bike path, one on the bike lane, both going the same direction as me. The one in the bike lane had headphones and no helmet. I don't think I ever expected in my lifetime to see batteries that small making something go that fast. I just wish Darwin would hurry up with the headphones in the bike lane part.
E Scooters became legal here two weeks ago and while very few models have been authorized so far, they are already clogging up the sidewalks and attracting idiots with no idea about how to behave in traffic. 4 friggin Über scooters were parked in front of my house this morning 
this is the only reason i have mine...
around where i live, everyone takes them an tosses them into the LA river. there are tons of them in there...
Yes you can ride them in an the open space parks and at least in Golden Gate SP too.That vid, even tho it was a bit corny, still made me want to ride my bike.
C'mon Nick. Aren't they legal in your neck of the woods right now? Up here, you gotta go to USFS/BLM land. Think of how many laps you could do at Apex
All of the CO state parks, not just GGC.
For those of you suffering from severe e-sensitivity and e-rritation:
You will however need find something new to get indignant about.
You will however need find something new to get indignant about.
but where‘s the fun in that?
"So we know everyone on here (pb) as of 2 years ago rode bikes and thought it was cool as shit. But we're moving to ebikes cause The Industry™ wants us to. Plus we'll get new advertisers. $$$$! Guess who wins!"
Beware the all powerful bike industry and media, a nefarious mix of Charles Foster Kane, hypercapitalist Gordon Gekko (obvious lizard is obvious), the Bilderbergers and Illuminati with their irresistible marketing. They mind controlled me into buying my fourth 29er-downcountry-E-fatbike in just under two months. Halp.
Video: 'Digger's Back' on an eMTB with Wade Simmons - Pinkbike
A VR North Shore Extreme video game? Digger's disembodied knees? Wade campaigning for an Oscar? This is one weird, feel-good eMTB video.
One chip to rule them all: It natively runs all types of AI software
Machine learning and artificial neurons right at home on new chip.
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Lyft pulls its e-bike fleet from San Francisco Bay Area after exploding batteries make them the hottest seat in town
Super Cali 'leccy bikes are proving quite atrocious, even though the biz insists they really quite precocious
www.theregister.co.uk
RC = Reptile Control
So,even though I am intrigued to ride our 400 miles of moto trails on an ebike, this represents the looming problem for non motorized trail systems.
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Watch this 4 kW electric dirt bike with pedals climb like a mountain goat
What happens when you set out to build an electric motorcycle using a pile of mountain bike parts? You get the SEM Adventure, a lightweight 4 kW electric bike with functional pedals designed to do things that neither electric bicycles nor dirt bikes should be able to do. SEM Adventure e-bike The...
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I don't get the point of this, like the Sur-Ron. No one can legitimately claim that the trail damage from 4 kW is equivalent to a biker at ~250-500W. If one sticks to moto trails... then at that point why not ride a real motorcycle?So,even though I am intrigued to ride our 400 miles of moto trails on an ebike, this represents the looming problem for non motorized trail systems.
Watch this 4 kW electric dirt bike with pedals climb like a mountain goat
What happens when you set out to build an electric motorcycle using a pile of mountain bike parts? You get the SEM Adventure, a lightweight 4 kW electric bike with functional pedals designed to do things that neither electric bicycles nor dirt bikes should be able to do. SEM Adventure e-bike The...
Also with 1 kWh of pack and 4 kW peak that's 15 minute runtime flat out. Why?
Because marketing
Do you ever ride your Emtb at full chat the entire ride?
If I do the 504wh battery will only last 1hr but in that hour I can climb (and descend) 3500ft elevation fairly effortlessly
I basically manage the amount of descending I'd get from a 2.5hr ride without the climbing effort or the fannying about/resting required before/after each climb/descent. Not something I do often but it's nice to have the option when short of time.
That thing might only last 15mins on full power but you're going to ride 4x the speed (uphill) and at least 3x the distance. Unless you have an uninterupted climb of 5 miles or more you're also unlikely to be able to use full power for 15mins continuously (climbing at a steady 20mph)
I'm not that interested but I'd assume it also has lower power levels to use on longer rides too?
what's actually interesting about that bike is the torque (130Nm). Not the max speed or wattages
Also preferably ride one before dismissing the entire point for others (not me)
That vehicle is in a serious legal gray area. Technically it probably should be plated and registered as a moped.
I like my legal class 1 e-bike access to mountain bike trails here. That thing would be blatantly against the spirit and the letter of the rules regarding access and would jeopardize my access as well as part of the backlash. 37 mph throttled...
I like my legal class 1 e-bike access to mountain bike trails here. That thing would be blatantly against the spirit and the letter of the rules regarding access and would jeopardize my access as well as part of the backlash. 37 mph throttled...
That was my whole point...
No it isn't
Yes. that is exactly where it lies legally
I'm not sure who you think said it lay anywere else legally?
CASE#: 19A103686
RANK/TROOPER FULL NAME: Andrew Underwood
STATION: Williston Barracks
CONTACT#: 878-7111
DATE/TIME: 08/02/2019 @ 16:64 hours
STREET: Maple St.
TOWN: Essex Jct.
LANDMARK AND/OR CROSS STREETS: Elm Street
WEATHER: Clear and Sunny
ROAD CONDITIONS: Heavy traffic / Dry
VEHICLE #1
OPERATOR: Lance Martel
AGE: 34
SEAT BELT? Yes
CITY, STATE OF RESIDENCE: Essex Jct. Vt
VEHICLE YEAR: 2018
VEHICLE MAKE: Jeep
VEHICLE MODEL: Grand Cherokee
DAMAGE TO VEHICLE #1: Damage to drivers side fender,
INJURIES: No Injuries
BICYCLIST: Gerald Delmonico
AGE: 72
CITY, STATE OF RESIDENCE: Essex Jct. Vt.
INJURIES: Facial fractures, injuries to extremities, lacerations
HOSPITAL: UVMC
SUMMARY OF CRASH: On the above date and time, Martel was traveling West on Maple Street in Essex Jct. Upon arrival to the intersection of Elm Street, Martel stopped and activated his left turn signal while he waited for a break in eastbound traffic. Once there was a break, Martel proceeded to turn onto Elm Street. As he was negotiating the turn, Delmonico entered the intersection on his electric bicycle, traveling west in the eastbound bicycle lane, and collided with the driver’s side of Martel's vehicle. Delmonico was treated at the scene by Essex Rescue and subsequently transported to UVMC for additional treatment. This crash remains under investigation. Anyone who may have witnessed the crash is urged to call the Vermont State Police.
RANK/TROOPER FULL NAME: Andrew Underwood
STATION: Williston Barracks
CONTACT#: 878-7111
DATE/TIME: 08/02/2019 @ 16:64 hours
STREET: Maple St.
TOWN: Essex Jct.
LANDMARK AND/OR CROSS STREETS: Elm Street
WEATHER: Clear and Sunny
ROAD CONDITIONS: Heavy traffic / Dry
VEHICLE #1
OPERATOR: Lance Martel
AGE: 34
SEAT BELT? Yes
CITY, STATE OF RESIDENCE: Essex Jct. Vt
VEHICLE YEAR: 2018
VEHICLE MAKE: Jeep
VEHICLE MODEL: Grand Cherokee
DAMAGE TO VEHICLE #1: Damage to drivers side fender,
INJURIES: No Injuries
BICYCLIST: Gerald Delmonico
AGE: 72
CITY, STATE OF RESIDENCE: Essex Jct. Vt.
INJURIES: Facial fractures, injuries to extremities, lacerations
HOSPITAL: UVMC
SUMMARY OF CRASH: On the above date and time, Martel was traveling West on Maple Street in Essex Jct. Upon arrival to the intersection of Elm Street, Martel stopped and activated his left turn signal while he waited for a break in eastbound traffic. Once there was a break, Martel proceeded to turn onto Elm Street. As he was negotiating the turn, Delmonico entered the intersection on his electric bicycle, traveling west in the eastbound bicycle lane, and collided with the driver’s side of Martel's vehicle. Delmonico was treated at the scene by Essex Rescue and subsequently transported to UVMC for additional treatment. This crash remains under investigation. Anyone who may have witnessed the crash is urged to call the Vermont State Police.
Nightmare!
Ps. what relevence is it that a bike has a motor in a collision within the normal speed range of a regular unassisted bicycle?
I rarely don't hit 40mph on pretty much every road bike ride whereas I rarely hit 40 commuting on my Emtb (but even if I do. I'm freewheeling)
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Agreed that e-ness is irrelevant here. Our lanes are typically between traffic and parked cars, one per direction/side of street.
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