no way, that's straight comedy right there. like an episode of keystone cops..
YAY, E-bikes!
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I'd definitely buy an ebike, but none of my mates have one and i don't want to be the one jerk on an ebike in a group ride
Just here to say, Trump likes e-bikes
Fuck Trump
Fuck e-bikes
APNewsBreak: Coming to national park trails: electric bikes
Motorized electric bicycles may soon be humming onto serene trails in national parks and other public lands nationwide. It's part of a new Trump administration order — hotly opposed by many outdoors groups — that will allow the so-called e-bikes on every federal trail where a regular bike can go.
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Fuck Trump
Fuck e-bikes
APNewsBreak: Coming to national park trails: electric bikes
Motorized electric bicycles may soon be humming onto serene trails in national parks and other public lands nationwide. It's part of a new Trump administration order — hotly opposed by many outdoors groups — that will allow the so-called e-bikes on every federal trail where a regular bike can go.
Electric bikes soon to be humming along national park trails
WASHINGTON (AP) — Motorized electric bicycles may soon be humming along serene trails in national parks and other public lands nationwide...
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This could be a major blow to MTB access going forwards, as it likely will be easier for land managers to simply ban ALL bikes than selectively choose inclusion. Not a good precedent.
And more organized pushback from the anti MTB (of either type) lobby to shut down any and all access. Double edged sword.
Counterpoint: class 1 e-bikes have been legal on trails here in JeffCo and Colorado State Parks for two seasons. No trail access issues or the like thus far.
The only trail worth riding that I know of on national land that isn't a NF is in Mt St Helens, which is a national monument. Not sure if that is effected. Although by the end of this administration national monuments may not exist anyway.
I assume you mean no trail closures yet. There are always trail user conflicts and access issues on every trail. If you don't think there are you just aren't involved in the access issues. I have seen trails shut down because of a single poorly behaved group of riders. No matter how popular cyclist will always be a minority group and there are plenty of people who want them banned everywhere.
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There are certainly ongoing conflicts between the greater class of bike/“bike” users and the other groups, yes, but I haven’t heard of any issues directly pertaining to e-bikes.
For those local, how well do you think the below scenario ended? Wife and I both presumed bear fodder off the side of the trail once they tried to point down hill.
Descending PickNSledge in Apex (rocky, dusty, loose, steep trails) and have to pause for a couple of riders coming up on fat-e-bikes. Neither wearing helmets or appear to have good riding skills as they bounced from side to side on the trail. But thanks to whatever e-assist they were getting it meant they were getting further in over their heads, the lady half of the couple did not look to be having fun.
Hopefully the bear eats well tonight.
Descending PickNSledge in Apex (rocky, dusty, loose, steep trails) and have to pause for a couple of riders coming up on fat-e-bikes. Neither wearing helmets or appear to have good riding skills as they bounced from side to side on the trail. But thanks to whatever e-assist they were getting it meant they were getting further in over their heads, the lady half of the couple did not look to be having fun.
Hopefully the bear eats well tonight.
Im not one to wish bad on anyone but perhaps a good crash is exactly what they need.
Also is etiquette to still yield to a climber even if they have a fucking motor?
I don't think so. I could see THAT being the source of a conflict.
I don't think so. I could see THAT being the source of a conflict.
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I've yielded to some, but only because I could only tell it was an ebike when they went whirring bike on a bike that sounded like it was out of the jetsons.
In general though, I've noticed lately that trail etiquette and courtesy has been going down the shitter. I attribute this to the increase in mountain bike use over the last few years.
Show me on the doll where the bad e-bike touched you.
It's equally as awkward to restart on a loose, steep hill on an e-bike as on a normal bike with that first half pedal stroke.
Saw an e-bike at White Clay bobble going over a 2" root...
Ah there's noobs on regular bikes too.
I wonder if e-bikes are more dangerous for them or safer. They certainly have more traction which has gotta help, and they're not really faster anywhere except uphill so I don't think there's any increase in risk there.
So I went on a ride with two other e-bikers today and now can see some of your points.
One guy used to ride in the 1980s but then lost the passion. He got an e-bike last year and now does 80 miles per week per him. But he clearly didn’t grow up with the mountain bike culture: skidding his rear tire like a noob, not yielding to at least one grumpy person I later encountered (he said it was on a section with neither rider clearly the uphill one so perhaps it was ambiguous), and apparently riding off limits trails in Buff Creek and blowing off criticism about that by turning off assist when asked.
The other guy was the stereotypical guy you wouldn’t see out on the trail were it not for assist. But he actually did fine. Yielded and was polite, knew his limits and didn’t ride over his head, and actually turned out to be a poster child for e-bikes: he had a fun experience that he wouldn’t have had without assist, with no detriment to other trail users.
One guy used to ride in the 1980s but then lost the passion. He got an e-bike last year and now does 80 miles per week per him. But he clearly didn’t grow up with the mountain bike culture: skidding his rear tire like a noob, not yielding to at least one grumpy person I later encountered (he said it was on a section with neither rider clearly the uphill one so perhaps it was ambiguous), and apparently riding off limits trails in Buff Creek and blowing off criticism about that by turning off assist when asked.
The other guy was the stereotypical guy you wouldn’t see out on the trail were it not for assist. But he actually did fine. Yielded and was polite, knew his limits and didn’t ride over his head, and actually turned out to be a poster child for e-bikes: he had a fun experience that he wouldn’t have had without assist, with no detriment to other trail users.
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I thought I was a horrible person who needed to be removed from public lands because of my mountain bike.
Then I bought a snowmobile.............
that's imba crap anyway
What makes more sense:
1. the person going slower uphill that can pretty much stop immediately who can hear better yields
c. the person with wind in their ears, a rattling bike, who has a much greater stopping distance yields
ebike or not.....imba sucks. They've done more harm to mountainbiking than good.
A Florida boy needs to have some kind of jet ski replacement.I thought I was a horrible person who needed to be removed from public lands because of my mountain bike.
Then I bought a snowmobile.............
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I thought it was self explanatory that I was a skateboarder because florida.
It's hard to keep up with what means florida sometimes. I thought just making out with my cousin for some cocaine was enough.
Edit: (during a hurricane)
It's hard to keep up with what means florida sometimes. I thought just making out with my cousin for some cocaine was enough.
Edit: (during a hurricane)
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I wouldn’t really care at all, but the fucking smoke exhaust just sits there. It doesn’t go up or disperse, it just sits there waiting for you to ride in it.
.....................................in 1998. What you're describing is a high pressure inversion.
I know the access where you live. Don't like snowmobiles? Go where they aren't. There are lots of those aren'ts.
My comment was about entitlement to land use and the tactics used to remove people. Not one's personal gripes about another user group.
mr goofy fatbike guy
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Its what happens here. The frozen rivers are fun as heck to use to get around, but the exhaust just stays there in the cold and doesn’t move. That’s more a function of the cold IME, inversions are normal most of the time you have clear skies to cool the surface......................................in 1998. What you're describing is a high pressure inversion.
I know the access where you live. Don't like snowmobiles? Go where they aren't. There are lots of those aren'ts.
My comment was about entitlement to land use and the tactics used to remove people. Not one's personal gripes about another user group.
mr goofy fatbike guy
Man if there were any cars, trains, or boats in AK it would sure make what you're describing kind of confusing.
You ever been to Salt lake city in the winter? That ain't snowmobiles.
You ever been to Salt lake city in the winter? That ain't snowmobiles.
are there any sweet dh tracks down magic mountain?
I've always thought 115lb was about the right weight for a bicycle.
UBCO Unveils Their New FRX1 Freeride Trail Bike: Overland News - Expedition Portal
The popularity of E-Bikes continues to grow It has been interesting to watch the rapid advancement of anything electric over the past several years. E-Bikes are no different, and they actually solve some problems for the overlander, including use as a support-vehicle for larger overland trucks...
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Seriously, why have pedals on that thing? Must be for some weird EU registration rules, because it makes no sense otherwise.I've always thought 115lb was about the right weight for a bicycle.
UBCO Unveils Their New FRX1 Freeride Trail Bike: Overland News - Expedition Portal
The popularity of E-Bikes continues to grow It has been interesting to watch the rapid advancement of anything electric over the past several years. E-Bikes are no different, and they actually solve some problems for the overlander, including use as a support-vehicle for larger overland trucks...expeditionportal.com
According to this photo, the bike is exclusively for bond villains
overlanding: when you want to go camping but need a different word than the poors use
overlanding: when you want to go camping but need a different word than the poors use
And, it has rear wheel drive, which is nice, too.I've always thought 115lb was about the right weight for a bicycle.
UBCO Unveils Their New FRX1 Freeride Trail Bike: Overland News - Expedition Portal
The popularity of E-Bikes continues to grow It has been interesting to watch the rapid advancement of anything electric over the past several years. E-Bikes are no different, and they actually solve some problems for the overlander, including use as a support-vehicle for larger overland trucks...expeditionportal.com
Ya know you can peg your heart rate riding moto too right?
Should not be used in the same sentence as e bikes.
Just gonna slide in here and point out that basically no other country is making such a big deal out of ebikes vs acoustic bikes. Just share the trails and don’t be a dick.
Reading this thread I cannot help but think this is some Classic American 1/0 Othering going on. Just gotta find that Other! And shout at them! STUPID OTHERS! I’M RIGHT!
Reading this thread I cannot help but think this is some Classic American 1/0 Othering going on. Just gotta find that Other! And shout at them! STUPID OTHERS! I’M RIGHT!
