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narlus

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people want steep (9:12 min) pitches here because of Louisiana's enormous snow loads
moronville, population everyone.

it makes the house just look so top heavy. if there were any two storey houses it would make the roof look a lot less oppressive.
 

N8 v2.0

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moronville, population everyone.

it makes the house just look so top heavy. if there were any two storey houses it would make the roof look a lot less oppressive.
i hate it and i think it sucks. it adds quite a bit to the cost to build for a single story house for decking, rafters and roofing. it isnt even decked up there so you can't really use it for attic storage either - usually just above the garage is decked.

but nearly every subdiv covenent requires a minimum of 8:12 and most have a minimum of 9:12....
 

Skookum

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i avoid getting on anything over a 5:12 nowadays. You either ride those pitches all the time so your body is used to it, or only when the offer is something you can't refuse. Even when i was younger and did alot of residential i hated anything over a 7:12. i guess it was mostly because i didn't use a safety harness.

But as far as aesthetics, that's all subjective.
 

N8 v2.0

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i avoid getting on anything over a 5:12 nowadays. You either ride those pitches all the time so your body is used to it, or only when the offer is something you can't refuse. Even when i was younger and did alot of residential i hated anything over a 7:12. i guess it was mostly because i didn't use a safety harness.

But as far as aesthetics, that's all subjective.
i remember back in 1999 we were paying roofers $10/sq for a 8:12...

its trippled now
 

Westy

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so what's north carolina's excuse for no basement?
It is not needed, I would guess it is a more expensive option for square footage than just building a larger house. Northern climates require quite a deep foundation because of the frostline making basements kind of a no brainer.
 

N8 v2.0

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Didn't you do a site inspection prior to pouring?
Thats pretty funny though.
it was missed by me and the plumbing inspector... not a typcial plumber screw up...

seems it was amature hour Tuesday afternoon

if this is the biggest crisis up on this job i'll be happy
 

DRB

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so what's north carolina's excuse for no basement?
We have a basement its called Greenville.

Seriously, don't know why its not common. The neighborhood I grew up in didn't have them and those were some fairly old houses.

About 1/3 of the houses in my neighborhood have them but those are the ones where the lot slopes off to the golf course. So its more of a third floor than an actual basement.
 

narlus

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basements rule. just a few reasons:

wine cellar
bike shop/work area
storage for excess crap (aka, american syndrome)

without a basement, where would you put this stuff?
 

N8 v2.0

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basements rule. just a few reasons:

wine cellar
bike shop/work area
storage for excess crap (aka, american syndrome)

without a basement, where would you put this stuff?
it's pretty cool to double your house's sq_footage with the basement too... does the basement count as living area for resale?
 

narlus

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the garage???
good luck stacking yr wine bottles in the garage. w/ cars in both bays, can you really set up a bike work area? a shed would work, but i imagine it's not heated, right?

N8, regardless of how finished it is, anything below grade can't technically be considered living area. at least that's how i understand it.
 

Westy

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good luck stacking yr wine bottles in the garage. w/ cars in both bays, can you really set up a bike work area? a shed would work, but i imagine it's not heated, right?

N8, regardless of how finished it is, anything below grade can't technically be considered living area. at least that's how i understand it.
It is complete hell not living exactly the same as you but somehow people manage.
 

narlus

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actually, it is an issue if there's a fair amount of ledge...when we looked @ houses 10 years ago, there was one or two which had passive radon removal systems (basically a vent), and a radon test is part of every home inspection.

you guys are just jealous that my 1/2 empty paint cans, christmas decorations, 24 old mtb tires and smelly hockey gear is tucked in near my oil tank and not in my garage or shed.
 

Wumpus

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good luck stacking yr wine bottles in the garage. w/ cars in both bays, can you really set up a bike work area? a shed would work, but i imagine it's not heated, right?
1) Cars don't go in garages. That's what the street and driveways are for.:rolleyes:

2) I don't drink wine so I don't need to stack bottles anywhere.

3) A bike area doesn't take up that much room.

4) What is this heat you talk about? It isn't that hard to hook up a window A/C unit.
 

narlus

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1) Cars don't go in garages. That's what the street and driveways are for.:rolleyes:
you got me there.

2) I don't drink wine so I don't need to stack bottles anywhere.
you got me there.

3) A bike area doesn't take up that much room.
you got me there.

4) What is this heat you talk about? It isn't that hard to hook up a window A/C unit.
you got me there.

westy is right.




i lived w/o a basement for 15 months. :plthumbsdown:
 

bizutch

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I just built my ****ty house on a lot that had an existing old shed on it. My bikes and me hide out there from the ladies of the house. Separate...no electricity...no company...just me, the dog and 4 year old Michelin mud tires...
 

Westy

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I would rather have a Garage than a basement. Since it is worthless for anything else the basement just collects tons of crap. I would actually clean out my garage.
 

Jeremy R

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I would rather have a Garage than a basement. Since it is worthless for anything else the basement just collects tons of crap.
Speaking of,
our electrician told us that he saw a mexican drop a turd in our basement.
Which I guess is still there, because I can always think of something better to do than grabbing a flashlight and going on a turd hunt.
 

Westy

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Speaking of,
our electrician told us that he saw a mexican drop a turd in our basement.
Which I guess is still there, because I can always think of something better to do than grabbing a flashlight and going on a turd hunt.
Flashlight? Sounds like you have a really tall crawlspace. My basement has lights, windows and the best thing ever: a drain in the middle of the floor. Every room in the house should have a drain in the middle of the floor.
 

N8 v2.0

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before we got drenched in a huge rain storm yesterday, my crew has the walls on the left side, the rear and the right side up...
 

N8 v2.0

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if only your crew had built my house instead of the complete shister that shoved our house down our throat and poured sewage in to wash it down...
it does pay to do some research on your home's builder that's for sure. esp with the current boom... it seems everyone thinks they can do it.

Here in La builders have a 7 year warrenty that goes with every new house.
 

bizutch

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it does pay to do some research on your home's builder that's for sure. esp with the current boom... it seems everyone thinks they can do it.

Here in La builders have a 7 year warrenty that goes with every new house.
That's what is really pathetic about ours. Our builder lived in a monster of a house with every ornate and structural faet you can imagine.
But we went with a straight forward off-frame modular. But he tricked us in a lot of areas...somehow got us 8 foot ceilings instead of 9 foot, never seamed it together cleanly, let it get a lot of water damage, cut corners on materials, never really "finished" it.

But since none of it is structural, the state says there is no recourse.
Our contract was basic...it had the total cost and the type of house. The order form to the mod company didn't have a line to indicate ceiling height so that wasn't even an "oversight" on our part. Our yard still looks like a construction zone and there is debris...

Did I mention he skipped town and moved to South Carolina?