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"MAY 2013
GIANT'S RESPONSE TO DW-LINK LAWSUIT
To our valued Giant retailers,
Earlier this week, several consumer cycling Web sites reported on the patent
infringement litigation between dw-link/Dave Weagle and Giant involving the
Maestro Suspension design. Below is Giant’s official response to this matter:
Giant vigorously disputes and intends to aggressively defend against the
patent infringement allegations contained in the lawsuit recently filed by dwlink. Maestro Suspension is a Giant proprietary design, and our retailers can
continue to sell Maestro-equipped mountain bikes with confidence.
Giant will continue to focus on developing world-leading technologies to help
you grow your business and provide a superior cycling experience for riders
worldwide.
We greatly appreciate your support and business."
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/sites/default/files/downloads/article/GiantsResponse_d-w_link_Lawsuit-RetailerEmail_May09-2013.pdf
"MAY 2013
GIANT'S RESPONSE TO DW-LINK LAWSUIT
To our valued Giant retailers,
Earlier this week, several consumer cycling Web sites reported on the patent
infringement litigation between dw-link/Dave Weagle and Giant involving the
Maestro Suspension design. Below is Giant’s official response to this matter:
Giant vigorously disputes and intends to aggressively defend against the
patent infringement allegations contained in the lawsuit recently filed by dwlink. Maestro Suspension is a Giant proprietary design, and our retailers can
continue to sell Maestro-equipped mountain bikes with confidence.
Giant will continue to focus on developing world-leading technologies to help
you grow your business and provide a superior cycling experience for riders
worldwide.
We greatly appreciate your support and business."
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/sites/default/files/downloads/article/GiantsResponse_d-w_link_Lawsuit-RetailerEmail_May09-2013.pdf
chewbacca defense
I guess I don't fully understand what Giant would have to gain by ripping off weagle in this situation. No matter how much he improves their suspension, nobody will buy it if it doesn't say "dw patented everywhere OMG" on the side. The reason people gravitate toward his bikes is because they _know_ that the appropriate amount of time has been spent on designing the suspension to work the way he intends it to. If it doesn't have that sticker, then there's no evidence he worked on it, and then there's no reason to buy it over the competition. I mean, isn't the story that the KHS DH300 cannot be sold in the US because it directly infringes on his IP, but it will never sell en mass regardless because the suspension was designed by ping pong wang and not the guy who actually owns the patents? In other words, if maeftro 2 doesn't have the pedigree, then why would anybody think it's better?
Nobody buys a KHS because, it's...a KHS!
fyp..
As a rule Giant Maestro mountain bikes ride well and are less expensive then the competition but they are are not considered cool.
I don't know if anyone remembers but for a few years or so Giant had a single pivot. http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=2004&brand=Giant&model=DH+Team.
It rode poorly.
A MTBR thread on the 2005 Maestro DH. First comment "hmmm, looks a lot like the Sunday... "
http://forums.mtbr.com/downhill-freeride/next-gen-giant-dh-101149-post912059.html#poststop
I don't know if anyone remembers but for a few years or so Giant had a single pivot. http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=2004&brand=Giant&model=DH+Team.
It rode poorly.
A MTBR thread on the 2005 Maestro DH. First comment "hmmm, looks a lot like the Sunday... "
http://forums.mtbr.com/downhill-freeride/next-gen-giant-dh-101149-post912059.html#poststop
A friend bought the KHS DH bike last week, $2000 it was hard to say no to!
Lest we all forget, Giant went right at Specialized with their most "innovative" linkage design and brazenly declared it something else. Virtually identical, yet used "kinematics" to defend it's bike. Specialized won that.
Yeah, stop blaming the lawyers, it's the insurance companies who are to blame for the high cost of everything. If only people weren't suing everyone, we wouldn't need insurance, and... wait a second, there's that lawyer connection again...
yea, but wasn't the horst link patent based on pivot location, whereas the dw-link patent is based on kinematics?
I think you made my point, and I quote: "people suing everyone ... ." -- 'nuff said. It's not the attorney suing people, it's people suing people.
how can you say this with a straight face? we have all watched television or listened to the radio at some point and heard a LAWYER beg us to call them over some stupid BS so the LAWYER can sue someones ass off to make a quick buck...
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Simple. Those cases are miniscule fraction of overall litigation. For comparison's sake, there were over 278,000 cases filed in 2012 in federal court alone and many times that in state court.
The point is that we Americans are very litigious -- much more so than in other countries with lawyers -- but do not accept responsibility for this mindset. As with so many other things, it is much easier to blame the attorneys rather than to look inside for the underlying cause. While lots of people like to blame attorneys for all the evil in the world, the same people are usually the first to come to us when things are going wrong.
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looks flexy...
Looks like a 29er, patent invalidatedFTFY.
Figure 10 from patent no. US 8382136 B2 :
"DW-Link has withdrawn its claims of patent infringement and regrets bringing the litigation against Giant."
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2014/07/01/giant-and-weagle-end-patent-lawsuit#.U7NZkI1dVOx
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2014/07/01/giant-and-weagle-end-patent-lawsuit#.U7NZkI1dVOx
a) Dave now has some beer money to spend
b) Giant Bicycles inc. LLC. corp "sent some guys"
I will eagerly watch DW's Instagram account to see what new toy he purchases...
Dave is messing with me now. He's flaunting his new hot tub purchase on Twitter. Hah... Well played lawnmower man. Well played.
Not for long. He's just filed suit against God. Sources say he's found that the instant center of the Big Dipper constellation, in concert with Little Dipper alignment. infringes on his patents.
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Somehow I doubt dave actually "regrets" bringing the suit against Giant. 
Not for long. He's just filed suit against God. Sources say he's found that the instant center of the Big Dipper constellation, in concert with Little Dipper alignment. infringes on his patents.
Dude that was bar none the best post/reply I've ever seen on Ridemonkey. EPIC