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N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus


New American Rifle Tests Well
StrategyPage.com | February 17, 2004

The U.S. Army is happy with the initial field testing of it's new M-8 (or XM-8) Assault Rifle. One of the major design features of the M-8 that makes it superior to the M-16 is the way it handles propellant gasses. The M-16 has these gasses going into the receiver, depositing layers of crud from propellant that did not completely burn. The M-8 keeps the propellant gasses out of the receiver and this reduces the cleaning time by about 70 percent. The troops appreciate this. More importantly, the reduced amount of crud in the receiver greatly increases reliability (far fewer rounds getting stuck.) In fact, the M-8 is designed to fire 15,000 rounds without cleaning or lubrication, even in a dirty (like a desert) environment. Troops are not allowed to let their weapons go like that, but this degree of reliability makes it less likely that rifles won't jam in a sandstorm or after getting dropped in the mud. The M-8 barrel and receiver is also of more sturdy construction, making it less likely that the user will get injured if there's something in the barrel when a round is fired. This is not unusual in combat. All you have to do is accidentally jam the barrel into the dirt while hitting the ground or otherwise avoiding enemy fire, and then have to return fire. On an M-16, this can often cause the rifle to, well, blow up in your face. This unfortunate event is much less likely with the M-8.

The M-8 comes with a battery powered sight that includes a red-dot, close-combat capability, plus infrared laser aimer and laser illuminator with a backup etched reticule. The sights on the M-8, similar to those which have been showing up on M-16s over the past decade, make it much easier to hit something. The M-8 is better designed for "ease of use" and support troops who don't handle their weapons frequently will find that they can more easily hit something with an M-8. Tests, using people who have not handled a rifle frequently, have demonstrated this.

Because the attachment points for rail mounted devices are built into the M-8, the sight can be factory zeroed. The M-16, because it has rail mounting hardware mounted on it, requires frequent re-zeroing in the field. This is a feature very much appreciated by the troops. The attachment points allow additional sighting devices to be quickly added to the weapon. A new 40mm, single shot grenade launcher (the M320) will be available for the M-8 and can be quickly installed by troops, without special tools. The M-8 is designed for easy left or right handed operation.

Testing will increase, as more M-8s are available, and the plan is that by early 2007, the first of over a million M-8s will begin distribution to all troops in active and reserve army units. One thing that may slow this down is the army research on the use of a new caliber (6.8mm). The new bullet has shown to have better accuracy and stopping power. While troops would be carrying less ammo with the larger round (25 rounds in the current 30 round magazine), they would require fewer shots to take down enemy troops. American troops today are much better trained in the use of their rifles than they were four decades ago. Automatic fire is not often used, with accurate, individual shots being the norm. The M-8 rifle, and possibly a new caliber, are a reflection of that.
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N8Note: 6.8mm.... mmmmmmm.... getting closer to 7.62mm...:)
 

Jorvik

Monkey
Jan 29, 2002
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I honestly don't know anymore.
It is an HK.

The 6.8mm round is being heralded as the near perfect rifleman round. Better ballistics than the 5.56mm and much better wound characteristics. The round is better than the 7.62x39mm AK round. 350fps faster with a round that is (I believe) just about as heavy with 115 grains. It is ridiculously better than the 5.56mm as the standard ball round is only 62 grains. 500fps faster at 100 yards. There was talk about changing the M-16 to 6.8mm with the Barrett upper receiver. Thats what I think should happen, as the Armalite design has been proven over 4 decades to be a solid weapon. Chambered in the 6.8mm would be pretty much as close to the perfect rifle as you can get.

And as for the cleaning issue, they should just clean their rifles. There won't be any problems if you just keep it clean. Ridiculous.

Ah well, it'll be another 10 years before the Marines get the M-8, so I'm not going to fret over it now.
 

nydave

Chimp
May 8, 2003
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Orange Co. NY
But I still prefer the good ol' M-14 and it's 7.62x51 cartridge.
Then again, this new M-8 sure would be a heck of alot better weapon than the M-16 and its anemic 5.56 round.
 

Jorvik

Monkey
Jan 29, 2002
810
0
I honestly don't know anymore.
6.8mm is a hell of a lot lighter than 7.62mm and provides excellent wounds nontheless. Don't get me wrong, I love firing 7.62mm M-14s as much as the next guy, but the practicality of the round and the rifle are declining (except for use as a semi-automatic designated sharpshooter and/or sniper weapon). The squad automatic weapons and the assault rifles all fire the same ammunition. Simplifies logistics and makes humps easier. I'd be the last person to complain if my ruck was too heavy, but I can see why weaker ones would. If they would only change the SAW and M-16 to 6.8mm, mmmmmm. And don't worry, the M240 Gulf won't need any changes ;)


Now if it was somehow possible to fire the new blended metal ammunition as opposed to the standard FMJ, 5.56 would be all one would need. Mmmmm, blended metal.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus

Shown (from left to right) are the 30 Remington (a rimless 30-30), the new 6.8mm Remington SPC and 5.56mm used in the M-16. The 6.8mm SPC is under serious consideration as the cartridge for the new army assault rifle, the M-8.