[slimshady]

I caught an interesting notice out of the Intense M16C review on PB. Is it true, has the VPP patent expired? Are we going to get a sea of unridabru, sunburnt crabon frames as Xmas presents?

Previously, Intense had licensed the virtual pivot point design from Santa Cruz, but the patent has since expired, and Intense now refers to the design as JS-Tuned Suspension, where JS refers to company owner Jeff Steber. On that note, now that both the virtual pivot point and Horst Link suspension patents have expired the playing field is wide open – it will be interesting to see how frame designs change in the coming years.

 

[StiHacka]

VPP + a fixed leverage curve == profit??

 

[trib]

Hopefully this means I'll be able to buy a 29+ VPP fat e-bike in questionable chinese carbon soon.

 

[kickstand]

hopefully this will make my bicycles rideable.

 

[jonKranked]

Virtual Horst Pivot

 

[jackalope]

Hopefully SCB will re-market VPP as "JG-tuned suspension" - Now With 100% Moar Rideability!

 

[kidwoo]

Hopefully SCB will re-market VPP as "JG-tuned suspension" - Now With 100% Moar Sellability!

You had a typo.

I fixed it.

 

[slimshady]

We'll have to watch @Udi batlling hoardes after hoardes of unnamed brand fanbois praising their s-shaped axle curves...

Oh, the horror...

 

[StiHacka]

Hopefully SCB will re-market VPP as "JG-tuned suspension" - Now With 100% Moar Rideability!

VJJ suspension and boobs hubs?

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Ratchet now.

 

[Westy]

SC will now come out with a multi-degree of freedom suspension that plots a 3-D volume for superior suppleabiltiy™ and anti-squat.

Just kidding, not new, not a fancy linkage, just their old flexy as fuck single pivot designs. 50% lateral travel is a feature damn it.

 

[kidwoo]

SC will now come out with a multi-degree of freedom suspension that plots a 3-D volume

Cuz mountain bikers and calculus.






3. Profit!

 

[Mo(n)arch]

INEFFICIENT.

 

[Sandwich]

did somebody say ZJ?

 

[jackalope]

Just kidding, not new, not a fancy linkage, just their old flexy as fuck single pivot designs. 50% lateral travel is a feature damn it.

This. I've even snagged a leaked pic of their new prototype AM slayer.

Have to admit, SCB has been willing to be bold with their recent graphics and colorways.

 

[captainspauldin]

So does this mean Intense JS-tuned suspension bikes are going to cheaper since they don't have to license VPP? I think not, but it's a nice thought!

 

[iRider]

They drop the price by the same amount as they did when moving production to Asia.

 

[jstuhlman]

hey hey hey now. their alu bikes are still hand-misaligned in the good 'ole US-of-A!

 

[slimshady]

hey hey hey now. their alu bikes are still hand-misaligned in the good 'ole US-of-A!

Are their front and rear triangles still being welded in two different facilities?

 

[iRider]

hey hey hey now. their alu bikes are still hand-misaligned in the good 'ole US-of-A!

Nope. T275A are made in Taiwan.

Source: http://forums.mtbr.com/intense/2015-2016-275a-tracers-995191.html

 

[Tim300wsm]

When does the patent expire on dw link???

 

[Lelandjt]

Aren't their multiple patents involved with VPP that were filed over time as they developed the design. So the oldest one would have expired but others are still active so maybe a free for all won't happen for a few years.