I wish I'd known the snail and fouriers rings weren't made of cheese. I'd have gladly used them. I've just picked up whichever RF, wolftooth, blackspire etc 30T was cheapest on ebay when I needed one for the last half dozen years.
Does Hope have their own CNC facilities? I thought Trickstuff had to contract with machine shops, a big reason for their production delays.Trickstuff and Hope both yes to my knowledge.
I run and love gear from both, though more for the product itself rather than COO or fair wages.
The brake thread is full of people who'll risk their lives on sub-par junk to save a few hundred dollars, so I figured there might be some connoisseurs of other cheap stuff. Interestingly I've found the better gear on alix ends up finding real distribution chains anyway (once people realise it's good), nice way to fatten western middle-man pockets I guess.
Fundamentally I share your sentiments (including on SRAM, while running it anyway), but in the same breath I've been at the receiving end of appaling service and sub-par product from plenty of home-grown MTB companies too, so these days I try not to fuss beyond "if it works, send it". If a good guy makes a buck it's a nice bonus for sure though!
Hope has quite sophisticated manufacturing facilities, CNC included. Here's a video from 2014. Definitely continued to grow since then, but fwiw:Does Hope have their own CNC facilities? I thought Trickstuff had to contract with machine shops, a big reason for their production delays.
I wish I'd known the snail and fouriers rings weren't made of cheese. I'd have gladly used them. I've just picked up whichever RF, wolftooth, blackspire etc 30T was cheapest on ebay when I needed one for the last half dozen years.
I have. (SNAIL, MOTSUV etc. they're all the same and all decent quality, the only downside is the logos)To be clear, I haven't put these rings thru their paces on my real mountain bikes.
NSB is another to add on doing all the machining in house.Maybe a parallel thread for someone like hope who I believe still makes their stuff in house........ I know there are more. Trickstuff?
Haha, I loved the chinglish spiel recommending a chain guide if you need 100% security. Not even a lie.The Snail 4bolt NW rings have been good for me too.
A bonus is the amazing marketing copy on the package.
Machine shops in Germany, and I believe that's for a very specific part (thin-wall machined stainless steel pistons).I thought Trickstuff had to contract with machine shops, a big reason for their production delays.
"not in house!"Hard to scream "not in house" over a part that no other brake even has.
I thought they relocated their entire operation earlier this year which caused the delays.Does Hope have their own CNC facilities? I thought Trickstuff had to contract with machine shops, a big reason for their production delays.
Assembly and warehouse were moved, but they are too small of an operation to make their own CNC/anodizing facilities viable.I thought they relocated their entire operation earlier this year which caused the delays.
Me too, two of the MOTSUV 104BCD rings from alibaba on my bikes, very satisfied.I have. (SNAIL, MOTSUV etc. they're all the same and all decent quality, the only downside is the logos)
In early June I got some real TLD shorts from my shop and they lasted about 300m of riding. First jump (new 29" DH bike) I did a whip and felt the tire buzz my right thigh, only a little more than "just barely". Then I tried to gap from a roller down into a berm (not a line the builder intended) and had to really reach to clear the knuckle. I got a pretty good tire buzz on the landing just to the left of my butt crack. At that point my friend pointed out a rip when the tire had just hit the short. I rode the 2 blocks home and looked at the shorts. In both places the tire had worn right through the fabric. I work at the shop so I called our TLD rep. She said she hadn't heard of anything like this and would definitely warranty. She had me email her a bunch of photos of the damage. Months later we never saw any replacement shorts show up.Bought a pair of rip off TLD shorts from ebay once. They were awful. Terrible sizing and cut. Nothing like the real ones. The popper broke off just trying them on so I received a full refund.
Ali express can be a nightmare for refunds. Bought a super bright light for night riding and what eventually arrived was an empty box in sealed packaging. Seller just kept dodging the claim asking for evidence (I had taken pics and forwarded them along with explanation to AliX, and there was nothing else I could do really) Never did get a refund
Y not Shimano?Me too, two of the MOTSUV 104BCD rings from alibaba on my bikes, very satisfied.
BTW I'm looking for a 96BCD 30t ring, so far to no success.
That sounds like user error to me. May I suggest a 26" rear wheel?In early June I got some real TLD shorts from my shop and they lasted about 300m of riding. First jump (new 29" DH bike) I did a whip and felt the tire buzz my right thigh, only a little more than "just barely". Then I tried to gap from a roller down into a berm (not a line the builder intended) and had to really reach to clear the knuckle. I got a pretty good tire buzz on the landing just to the left of my butt crack. At that point my friend pointed out a rip when the tire had just hit the short. I rode the 2 blocks home and looked at the shorts. In both places the tire had worn right through the fabric. I work at the shop so I called our TLD rep. She said she hadn't heard of anything like this and would definitely warranty. She had me email her a bunch of photos of the damage. Months later we never saw any replacement shorts show up.
A pair of random surf shorts would have more durable material.
Well, I tore the palm off a set of TLD GP gloves after ~30 minutes of riding in the wet. We stopped to move a log off the trail, I grabbed it, it slipped my hands, BANG! within a second both my gloves were palmless. The palm material was so thin I seriously doubt it would have protected my hands in the event of a crash. I was a very cash deprived student at the time, so I decided I would stay off their overpriced marketing and settled for Fox/Thor/etc.In early June I got some real TLD shorts from my shop and they lasted about 300m of riding. First jump (new 29" DH bike) I did a whip and felt the tire buzz my right thigh, only a little more than "just barely". Then I tried to gap from a roller down into a berm (not a line the builder intended) and had to really reach to clear the knuckle. I got a pretty good tire buzz on the landing just to the left of my butt crack. At that point my friend pointed out a rip when the tire had just hit the short. I rode the 2 blocks home and looked at the shorts. In both places the tire had worn right through the fabric. I work at the shop so I called our TLD rep. She said she hadn't heard of anything like this and would definitely warranty. She had me email her a bunch of photos of the damage. Months later we never saw any replacement shorts show up.
A pair of random surf shorts would have more durable material.
Free shipping too.NSB is another to add on doing all the machining in house.
that's not my experience with their rings, I can get multiple years out of them with regular chain replacing.Free shipping too.
I like their chainrings, but maybe its just the conditions or my level of hack on the bike, but they wear out quick. Is one season per ring a thing?
Going to order a steel ring the next go around.
yea, gray market is a big problem, see what shimano & sram are doing (regional sales restrictions, i seem to recall they implement penalties or something for companies caught selling OEM product aftermarket), as well as colnagoRe: TLD clothing... it's a learning curve. You should thank the universe for steering you in another direction.
Second, I wonder which of these clothes are actually fakes vs. grey market, production overruns, didn't pass qc or otherwise, coming off the same factory line as the legit. Saw a lot of this when I was in China, as did my brother.
Not "in house", but down the street. Everyone needs a pricey stem that matches their fork offset..
https://ridetenet.com/
I used to love the old TLD Air gloves with the coarse mesh on the back of the hand. Had a few sets that last multiple years. The new version is worthless - they changed the fit and closure and the two pairs I tried came apart at the seams within a few rides. A mate got me to try the FIST gloves and now running those instead.Re: TLD clothing... it's a learning curve. You should thank the universe for steering you in another direction.
Same experience here with the old and new TLD Airs.I used to love the old TLD Air gloves with the coarse mesh on the back of the hand. Had a few sets that last multiple years. The new version is worthless - they changed the fit and closure and the two pairs I tried came apart at the seams within a few rides. A mate got me to try the FIST gloves and now running those instead.
90s styling?what’s not to love.
Did mean all of the above, often the same gear is on amazon and ebay. If it's something expensive/risky I use ebay for the buyer protection. That's two votes for the Kalloy stem, sounds decent.surprisingly little to add here. I don't know if I've bought anything from aliexpress as the whole thing kind of creeps me out. I will gleefully buy off amazon or ebay.
For a while this summer seats and stems became so impossible to source I ordered some "Kore" saddles from ebay and no name stems from Amazon to sell at our shop. We marked them up only like $10 above what we paid and they flew off the shelves.Nice to know "what's good" of the cheap stuff available across the board, some of it even makes its way to bike stores (albeit at inflated prices) so @johnbryanpeters can feed both China and America at once.
It's a road stem, not sure I'd huck the gnar on 120mm of glory, but it feels stiffer than my truvativ thanks to its two-bolt closure. I scooped up a shimano pro koryak for that. I have to rack my brain and think if there's any other garbage I've accumulated. I usually go for brand-name closeout stuff as I can have confidence that it won't explode, even if it's last year's colourwayDid mean all of the above, often the same gear is on amazon and ebay. If it's something expensive/risky I use ebay for the buyer protection. That's two votes for the Kalloy stem, sounds decent.
Saw those ztto cassettes but questioned it.. $150ish for it vs $300 for a GX from Sram.This season I have experimented the following parts with good success:
- 11-46, 11spd, HG light cassette (ztto) currently 1500km of enduro and some Bikepark and looks barely used.
- 9-46, 11spd, XD light cassette (ztto) same built but less time on it but no reason not to believe it will be as good as the HG.
- bleed kit (transparent with yellow bits)
- ARC boost hubs, 100+ poe, 32 jbend spokes. 1500km on it, nearly 80,000m of elevation enduro and bike park. Bearings died mid season which is easily replaced and happens to me even on reputable hubs. Freehub sealing isn't the best so a quick clean every so often is advised. Got a new set for my next bike and the freehub seal seem to have been improved.
- I used different flat pedals on my race bmx and off season too. Currently using some nylon carbon fiber models that looks pretty close to the Kona wahwah pedals (named shanmashi or something). Excellent grip and feel, the oversized bearing isn't amazing but it is an easy fix, everything else is good.
- Satori 31.8/150mm dropper has been really good, I installed it on my winter hardtail last winter and it is still going super strong. It was pretty dry inside out of the box and after a little bit of stendec fork grease it has been perfect since.
- ZTTO dropper control. Now this one is so/so, it works really well and is pretty well built, but ergonics are a bit off if you don't have big or bigger hands I think. I am a size 11 for gloves and it is just ok for me, wouldn't give it to my girlfriend for instance.
- ZTTO single clamp grips with the really thin rubber fins are pretty good if you like thin grips, rubber is tacky enough
- I tried different discs mostly from ZTTO in 180 and 203 size, all good. They are on the heavier side but I guess it is not a bad thing for heat management (had branded light discs that would heat-up way to quickly before). Not sure if they wear out faster than normal discs but since they are cheap as chips I replace them as soon as the braking surface starts dishing.
- Miscellaneous like cables, housings, barbs and olives, stem spacers, grub screws, Ti screws, valves and so on.
Once I saw some of the AExpress products sold on Alltricks under their brand name (Neatt) it definitely helped me trying more stuff off AExpress. Not all is good (rings are cheese, cheaper cassettes are meh, still experimenting with pads) but you can make substantial savings and not compromise on performance soI would rather put my money into buying quality tires for instance.