[ZHendo]

Yo guys,

I'm trying to figure out this whole 10 speed phenomenon. I see that they're made with short, medium and long cage offerings which is nice, but the cranksets are what confuse me. Do the cranks need to be 10 speed specific? I want to use a double on the bike I'm building in a couple weeks, but those don't accomodate bash guards because they're double ring specific. Getting a triple would require me to buy a bash and middle ring separately, which would suck. Let me know what others are/are planning on doing.

 

[stoney]

the rings need to be 10sp, as they are narrower to accommodate the narrower chain

 

[DirtyMike]

Or..... You could order a ten speed set with two rings and a bash.... they are available now, just need to call around a bit see what people have for an offering.


Like Joker said though, its about the rings, not the cranks....

 

[buildyourown]

The rings are the same. They say they are specific, but they are the same.
Besides, we all ran 9sp on 8sp rings for years in the late 90's.
Edit, get the SLX with the bash and 2 rings. The gearing is perfect. A first for Shimano.

 

[roel_koel]

according to Shimano here in the UK, the 10 speed Shimano mountain bike "Dynasys" has a unique chain pitch which also means the cassette, chainrings and derailleur

this means you cannot use 10 speed Shimano Mtn groupset parts with 10 speed Shimano road or 10 speed SRAM anything...and 10 speed Shimano Mtn will not work with current chain devices if the chain device has a pulley wheel

 

[Jason4]

I asked about this over in the e.thirteen forum and Phil said that some of the WC racers were running 10spd gear on their bikes last year with the regular e.thirteen guiderings.

If it's good enough for Peaty, it's good enough for me!

 

[roel_koel]

I asked about this over in the e.thirteen forum and Phil said that some of the WC racers were running 10spd gear on their bikes last year with the regular e.thirteen guiderings.

If it's good enough for Peaty, it's good enough for me!

this is where SRAM will win the 10 speed war?

any of the guys like Peaty sponsored by SRAM and running 10 speed have no issues


its if you try and run Shimano Mountain Bike 10 speed on current 9 speed components, you will have the trouble, according to UK shimano importer Madison Cycles

 

[ZHendo]

i've looked around but what 10 speed double cranks include a bash?

 

[ZHendo]

screw it, is 10 speed really worth it? Projected availability date is August 18th, and i just can't decide if the additional cost will really make for a "better experience". has anyone ridden this stuff yet?

 

[zdubyadubya]

yes. and i think that you don't need a double setup with a 10spd rear. unless of course you have some really gnarly climbs.

get a 12-34 cassette and run a 34 or 36 ring. 1x10 should provide you with plenty of gears and then you can run a normal crankset with lg1 type protection.

but this is just my opinion.

 

[ZHendo]

and does a 9 speed front derailluer work with a RD setup? i'm assuming yes...

 

[TheTruth]

You need MOAR COGZ!

 

[zdubyadubya]

and does a 9 speed front derailluer work with a RD setup? i'm assuming yes...

yes. a 10spd cassette fits onto a 9spd freehub body. therefore the width the chain has to travel is the same. hence a normal ft derailleur will work.

 

[lachy_mtb]

been to a shimano night about all the new 10 speed stuff and yes you do need new cranks for the shimano 10 speed stuff, even the derailures are specifc 10 speeds as they use different tensioning or something. The whole groupset has been redesigned with different pitching etc.
Sram on the other hand, im pretty sure can use any type of ring.

 

[Floor Tom]

I guess this also means you can't do the usual and run a SRAM chain with a Shimano cassette if you want 10 speed, bit of a failure on Shimano's part then.

 

[buckoW]

I have been on an XX 12-36 cassette, XX derailleur, and a 10 speed X9 shifter for a couple months and you really need to keep your stuff running perfect or it skips a lot. I am not convinced but I like the cassette.

 

[Nagaredama]

I guess this also means you can't do the usual and run a SRAM chain with a Shimano cassette if you want 10 speed, bit of a failure on Shimano's part then.

You can't even run a Shimano road chain with the new Dyna-Sys drivetrain.