thanks
which axle length?
the FSA is available in 128 or 133?
which axle length?
the FSA is available in 128 or 133?
35lb JEDI!
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Tank! Thats a smokin hot deal on those. Never see them for sale used. I think Ive run accross 33 sets ina couple of years. Always have my eyes open for a eal ewspecially on full proof parts! SCORE
Nice......
shave as much weight from the bike as you like, you are still hauling around the same sized gut and @$$
*luv you*
*luv you*
Travis you really have a way with words. You're just a clear and coherent dude.128mm
Tank! Thats a smokin hot deal on those. Never see them for sale used. I think Ive run accross 33 sets ina couple of years. Always have my eyes open for a eal ewspecially on full proof parts! SCORE
Those don't look very huckable.These are mine. Some of the anodising gone but for $70 there is nothing to complain about.
Yeah it was supposed to be 3 sets. I have a mjor sinus infection, flu and chest cold going on right now!Travis you really have a way with words. You're just a clear and coherent dude.
Iride: They are cold forged so don't let the looks make that assumption. I assure you I have been riding these now hard for a long time and they take the abuse. I think I said it before but I expected when I got them that Id have them bent within a few months. Nope almost 2 years later and they are still straight and stong with no issues.
Did you have any of the usual issues w/ the ATA? (i.e. not getting full travel) I'm building a RM Flatline and I'd love to put a 888 ATA WC on it, but I'm a little leary given the feedback I've read on it. I could always just get a RC-3 WC, but the idea of ATA is appealing to me.
Thanks!
--Ben
I didnt have the issues with that at all, it was mainly 07s. Id run another and will again this year with no ? or concern. But I want last years colors red/silver/white. Im not intrested in the new darker colors doenst go with my set up!
Mandown and overtheedge have a them on there bikes as well. I ride with both those guys and they ride pretty aggressive. Your more than welcome to PM or ask them theyd be more than happy to give you there experiences as well. Me personally It had smokin hot small bump compliance and was butter all through the travel. it handled the bigger hits and tracked a line really well!!! Thats the reason Ill sport them again, I was impressed.
I didnt have the issues with that at all, it was mainly 07s. Id run another and will again this year with no ? or concern. But I want last years colors red/silver/white. Im not intrested in the new darker colors doenst go with my set up!
Mandown and overtheedge have a them on there bikes as well. I ride with both those guys and they ride pretty aggressive. Your more than welcome to PM or ask them theyd be more than happy to give you there experiences as well. Me personally It had smokin hot small bump compliance and was butter all through the travel. it handled the bigger hits and tracked a line really well!!! Thats the reason Ill sport them again, I was impressed.
I want to lnow the weight of the session 88 without shock.
Stem got here pics with weights of it vs thomson 50mm X4 in first post!
If you're trying to compare (your picture), you should have all the necessary bolts for both stems.
Looks pretty though, guess the Boxxer is here to stay...
Also, just so you know there are 16oz in a pound. 15oz is not 15g.
Looks pretty though, guess the Boxxer is here to stay...
Also, just so you know there are 16oz in a pound. 15oz is not 15g.
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Thats why its 50g different! The stem is 107g and the bolts were 23g so it came in all hardware 130g and the thomson was 180g = 50g lessIf you're trying to compare, you should have all the necessary bolts for both stems. Looks pretty though, guess the Bboxxer is here to stay...
Also, just so you know there are 16oz in a pound. 15oz is not 15g.
Thats why the first post says 35lbs 15ozs
Im pretty sure I know my weights, had a little practice at this. BTW: Your site is looking good, great ideas on most looked at articles etc.. definently original and 2
's up! Diggin it as alwaysIf its a big deal Ill drop to fr tires, less stans and lace some stans hoops or 5.1 hoops, run ultegra cassette, get rid of my stainless steel lines and get it in the 34lb (possibly sub) range!
My next wheelset will be here by friday, they should be lighter than the I9s or close too, we'll see where the 823s come in with there hubset! They are the DH specific set, less engagement in the pawls so Ill keep them for lighter courses.
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I like the white stem
sweet build! got to get a medium frame or a small you will save some grams there ;-)
Hehe, just noticing that you like to round down a lot but that's cool (you're ~25g away from 36 
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There will be some pretty sweet stuff up on the site soon that i'm sure you'll like as well.
Bet you're itching to ride that Jedi!
(you're ~25g away from 36 )There will be some pretty sweet stuff up on the site soon that i'm sure you'll like as well.
Bet you're itching to ride that Jedi!
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1st: as far as the site yeah I pop over there a bit, look forward to seeing new stuff as always! You always have good stuff and get ahold of a ton of bling parts to review!Hehe, just noticing that you like to round down a lot but that's cool
Bet you're itching to ride that thing.
You should put pics of the bikes fully built on a scale.
As far as weight:
Round up or down its still elgitimatley sub 36 and now its 50g lighter as well. Ill pull my stans out to 1 scoop (vs 3.5 per tire) to a normal level for others but that will shed another 150g so that will be 1/2lb lighter mixxed with the 25g less already that will put me below the 35.5 and there still wont be any noticeable difference aside of the scale!
Either way J, I beat the crap out of this as well as huck/race/fr and ride some pretty nasty stuff and with me being 230+ lbs before gear thats impressive in itself the reliablility!
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Stem got here pics with weights of it vs thomson 50mm X4 in first post!
Wow, that looks great. What sort of money does it cost in the US? The US price is lately more or less the UK one
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They are $123.00 US plus shipping. PM or email me if you are interested. I'm a dealer for Twenty6 products.Wow, that looks great. What sort of money does it cost in the US? The US price is lately more or less the UK one
Ill vouge for the stems they are georgeous! Absolute work of art, havent anytime beating on it yet but first look is wellcrafted and Tylers real meticulous about his carvings
B any idea whats going on with you and middy?
B any idea whats going on with you and middy?
My Middleburns turned up today 
Nice!!!!!!!!! Your going to love them.My Middleburns turned up today
Still looking into it.
Bullcrew,
Could you let me know what tyre sets do you use depending on terrain?
Thanks
Im running Big Bettys now thats its drying out a little bit. Loven em!
The muddy mary front big betty rear will be my most universal combo and if its loamy or getting on the ick side of things then a Muddy mary rear. If its dry, loose and rocky then its Big bettys front and rear like Im riding right now. They hook up really well and any dry rocky condition or no deep mud/loam.
If you take conditions from 1 - 10
1 being dry loose rocky
10 being muddy trenches and nasty
Muddy mary is a 2.5 - 8
Big betty is a 1-6.
Black shark mud 8-10
Fat albert 1-3
This should make it a bit easier, I have rode the big bettys on mud with good success but its not in its shining area of grip. It works and can be done but this scale pretty much sums them up!
The muddy mary front big betty rear will be my most universal combo and if its loamy or getting on the ick side of things then a Muddy mary rear. If its dry, loose and rocky then its Big bettys front and rear like Im riding right now. They hook up really well and any dry rocky condition or no deep mud/loam.
If you take conditions from 1 - 10
1 being dry loose rocky
10 being muddy trenches and nasty
Muddy mary is a 2.5 - 8
Big betty is a 1-6.
Black shark mud 8-10
Fat albert 1-3
This should make it a bit easier, I have rode the big bettys on mud with good success but its not in its shining area of grip. It works and can be done but this scale pretty much sums them up!
I assume you are running UST versions of each tyre. It that correct?
I tried to fit Big Betty at rear but it is too tight and it is rubbing. It is not UST version though. Any ideas on this?
I tried to fit Big Betty at rear but it is too tight and it is rubbing. It is not UST version though. Any ideas on this?
Yeah Im running UST everything with FR and DH casing stuff sitting all over the place to try.
for any doubters or non believers I will tell you that the middleburn cranks are the strongest lightest thing i have ever ridden. i have beaten on mine hard core for 3 seasons. hit rocks at mach speed, slammed them into logs, hucked some big big jumps. the trails i ride are not nice. i was sceptical in the beginning when i first saw the middleburns. at the time i was on raceface diabolous cranks, which we all know are very, very heavy. I had many issues with the bearing in the outboard bb, but i am so glad i went back to the good ol ISIS. my middleburns have stood the test of time. not bent, not broken, no problems. and.... (correct me if i am wrong) they have a lifetime warranty against downhill usage. All of my friends run them and no one has had problem one with them. If you are looking for some middleburns downhillzone in seattle, wa has them. Give adam a call. 206/523/3337
I just got my jedi on order, i am so pumped about it :biggrin: I just have to decide which shock i want but i am pretty sure i want the BOS shock.
FSA. I would run an skf cuz those things are indestructible but they are heavy.
I thought the purpose of running Middlesburns was to save some weight.
What light BB?
oh course that was a jokeI thought the purpose of running Middlesburns was to save some weight.
What light BB?
but i personally use a fsa platnium dh. mainly cuz my m3 is a 73mm bb and i need a wide 128mm bb to clear the cranks from the frame. they are not horribly heavy and they are very strong.
Yeah Middys are indestructable, mine have tried to break rocks several times and no issues! I think my BB is a fsa, been the same one since I bought the middys 2 years ago and still going strong. Bearings are starting to go but the drag holds my cranks where I left them when I throw the feet off the opedals!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your going to love it, I actually got out of class early today and went and rode socal dirt again. Between the being sick for 3 weeks, family vacation for 11 days and finishing work, packing and moving back down here its been a bit since I slung a leg over the bike. Kind of scary considering the cardio otter is coming up and my lungs feel like POO!!!!The bikes a blast to ride and mashing through rocks and nasty lines is a total BLAST!!!!
Pics when built, or frame only or frame and fork or frame only!
Travis,
Something for you: new American Classic downhill 150mm hub - below 240grams
Link here: http://www.amclassic.com/products/hubs/downhill135disc.php
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Something for you: new American Classic downhill 150mm hub - below 240grams
Link here: http://www.amclassic.com/products/hubs/downhill135disc.php
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Ssssh, they're my secret, no-one else is allowed them!! 
Been riding them for a few weeks now, the flange looks delicate I know, but no problems yet. Nice and quiet compared to a Pro2 too. Lighter than a Tune even!!!! The guys in my sig sell them in the UK if there's any monkeys this side of the pond that want hooking up.
Been riding them for a few weeks now, the flange looks delicate I know, but no problems yet. Nice and quiet compared to a Pro2 too. Lighter than a Tune even!!!! The guys in my sig sell them in the UK if there's any monkeys this side of the pond that want hooking up.
The lightest hub combo so far would be: DT Swiss 240s 20mm and American Classic Downhill 150.