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Kntr

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2008
888 RC3-3220 g-axle to crown 567mm
888 RC3 World Cup-3170g-axle to crown 567mm
888 RC3 ATA-2910 g-axle to crown 567mm
66 RC3-2980g-axle to crown 564mm


2009
888 RC3-3748 g-axle to crown 564mm
888 RC3 World Cup-3641 g-axle to crown 567mm
888 ATA World Cup-3188 g-axle to crown 567mm
66 RC3-3186 g-axle to crown 564mm

2008
Boxxer World Cup-2812 g
Boxxer Team and Race-3129 g




What is going on with ZOKE? Their forks are getting heavier every year. Are the 2009 888 weights correct?
 
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norbar

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Nope 08 weight the same as 09. Look at the international site and you will see the rear weights of 08
 

norbar

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All those weights were from the USA Zoke site.
That's why 08 and 09 are different. Go to intl site and you will get the right numbers. The US site gave weights from 07 interbike while intl was updated later (or maybe there are just full of ****)
 

Kntr

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The new 888 are 38mm instead of 35. could be the difference in weight.
Um, the 08 and 09 are both 38mm.




What does everyone think of the new color of the 09 888s? The grey looks terrible. I still like the 08 white. Opinions?
 

norbar

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Um, the 08 and 09 are both 38mm.




What does everyone think of the new color of the 09 888s? The grey looks terrible. I still like the 08 white. Opinions?
THat's why 08 and 09 weight the same.

PS. I see they started to bull**** about the 08 models on the INTL site also.
 

Kntr

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I dont get why they cant get it right on the USA site.

I ordered a 08 888RC3 today. I like the white better than the new grey. Ill have a actual weight soon.
 

Kntr

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I got the 2008 888 RC3 yesterday and threw it on the scale. It weighs 8.6 lbs. This is complete with axle, crowns, and stem. I would like to know how they came up with 7 lbs. They must weigh it withOUT crowns, stem, and axle, and no oil.
 

Rick205

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Marzocchi havnt given accurate weights for a long time - their XC forks are the same weighing without lockout systems & steerer so when you get them they are 200-300g heavier, which is a lot considering you were expecting a 1400g fork!

8.6lbs is quite heavy - at my size and weight i dont know if i would cope with that too well - i found my old 888's a little cumbersome when coupled with my heavy front wheel

- Ultimatley if your not happy send them back and get something lighter?

Rick
 

ElTORO

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With all the other Tards!!
Yah they weigh them with, No axel, stem, steer. And maybe the top crown. I had a big bitch fest with my friend about this when he got his. (Sriracha on here). He agreed with MZ saying that those are not part of the fork.:rolleyes:
 

sriracha

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Yah they weigh them with, No axel, stem, steer. And maybe the top crown. I had a big bitch fest with my friend about this when he got his. (Sriracha on here). He agreed with MZ saying that those are not part of the fork.:rolleyes:

:blah:

:biggrin:

here are the weights of my 08 888 RC3, from the velo pro digital scale:

8.58 lbs with stem, axle and steertube.
7.98 lbs without stem and axle.
7.57 lbs without stem, axle or steertube.


the weights on the marzocchi website are accurate, you just have to know how they got those numbers. they weigh the fork without the stem, axle or steertube. they do include the top crown in that weight.

it's a little shady. but their argument is that people cut and discard about 1/3 of the steertube.

i personally feel that ALL manufacturers should include the uncut steertube weight, but i do not think the axle nor stem weights should be included.

frame manufacturers don't include the rear axle weight. and no other fork company includes a direct mount stem in their weights. the stem is not part of the fork. however, marzocchi should list the weights of the uncut steertube, stem and axle, for the weight weenies out there.
 

Kntr

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:blah:

:biggrin:

here are the weights of my 08 888 RC3, from the velo pro digital scale:

8.58 lbs with stem, axle and steertube.
7.98 lbs without stem and axle.
7.57 lbs without stem, axle or steertube.

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These numbers are almost exactly what I got.
 

sriracha

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These numbers are almost exactly what I got.

yeah, the 08+ 888's are about 1/2 lbs heavier than earlier models. there's just more material in the newer fork. you can feel it, though...less flex, especially under braking.

i really don't notice the weight when i'm riding, but i do notice it when i lift the bike up to load it on a roof rack.


...and, just a headsup, the spring is a little stiffer than the older models. at first, i couldn't get much sag out of the fork, nor could i bottom it out. however, after breaking it in, the fork now sags nicely, and i bottom out every now and then on ≥5 foot to flat drops.

for those concerned with weight, the 07 888 might be the way to go. but, if you don't care as much, it is my opinion that the 08 888 feels and rides better.
 

Kntr

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The bike weighs 37-38 now. Im thinking it will add about 2 lbs. I wondering if Ill even tell a difference. The 66 is awesome.
 

norbar

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I'll cry if you do it. The build is great as it is. Putting a heavy fork on a very light frame is insane.
 

sriracha

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The bike weighs 37-38 now. Im thinking it will add about 2 lbs. I wondering if Ill even tell a difference. The 66 is awesome.[/IMG]

weight wise, the 66 really isn't much lighter than the 888, when comparing same production years. the 66 has a beefier/heavier steertube to compensate. IIRC, i don't think there's more than a 1/2 lb difference...


as for the feel, there's a pretty big difference between the 66 and 888...you notice the difference in rough terrain. the biggest difference i notice is that the 66 is much more progressive, ramping up sooner in the travel. the 888 is more linear and takes the big hits better. the difference of air volume within the stanchion tubes is why one is progressive and the other is linear.