Don't know if there's a post on this allready, but it's news to me! Looks pretty sweet IMHO
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1406
enjoy!
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1406
enjoy!
A 24 pound 6 inch travel bike is nothing like a Heckler. That would be a fun bike to try. That fork scares me though.buildyourown said:Looks like a Heckler rip off IMO
I like the thru axle version tho
I was referring to the falling rate/single pivot with a platform shock design.Ridemonkey said:A 24 pound 6 inch travel bike is nothing like a Heckler. That would be a fun bike to try. That fork scares me though.
What, you're saying this isn't an XC/Trail bike?BigMike said:I thought the Lefty was an XC fork.....
2 words: Cedric Gracia. But he doesnt know how to ride...BigMike said:I thought the Lefty was an XC fork.....
Ahh, thanks for the memories. I remember seeing one of those for the first time in October 1994. It made an impression :heart:DamienC said:Reminds me a little of this oldie but goodie...
...except for the 5.25 lb frame weight.
Heath Sherratt said:Oh, and by the way, Cedric Gracia and Aaron Chase are both riding one of those "scary forks".
Yes, I agree with you. Most people are scared to ride a lefty, just because of its looks. Maybe people should actually ride the fork before they comment on it. I have never heard of a broken lefty before, yet Ive heard of numerous broken marzocchi dirtjumpers. (Although im sure thats because there are far more dirtjumpers out there)Heath Sherratt said:I used to trip out on people that didn"t "get" the Lefty. Now I'm glad most people don't ride it even though it is the lightest, laterally stiffest, lowest maintenance shock out there (everything is internal and takes 20min to overhaul a cartridge with .30 cent o-rings). I have been riding a lefty max the 5 inch travel one for two years now and I have raced it dh and dual and xc and will never go back to a standard "fork" as long as I can avoid them. I rode a Fox Talas the other day and they just don't compare. Now the max is carbon and has SPV? WOW! Evrything I ever wanted. And it won't be the "trendy" "cool" thing to have either. Nice. Distinct, lighter, stronger, and original; go C-dale. Oh, and by the way, Cedric Gracia and Aaron Chase are both riding one of those "scary forks".
I knew you would chime in!!kidwoo said:The current incarnations of the lefty max are hands down one of the best forks out there. Those of you who are scared of them: I know for a fact you haven't ridden one. If I could put one on my enduro, it would be there. I've ridden them on gemini's and friend's jekylls and they are way stiffer than anything else out there right now as far as trailbike forks. The dampers left a little to be desired with some of the previous air sprung leftys but it's not an issue any more. The only other fork I've ridden that comes near it is the maverick forks. I've ridden a heckler with one of them and I'd be hard pressed to prefer one over the other based on performance.
In my opinion, the lefty is the one thing cannondale has done right since being one of the first aluminum frame manufacturers way back. Try one.
Oh, its SUPER flexy!......BurlySurly said:looks like it might be a tad flexy
Yeah, but it's also gonna be $5000. Ouch.biker3 said:BTW im waiting to order my new 4x prophet that thing should be SWEET. I hear its 25ibs of jumping heaven!
I find that extremely hard to believe but anyhow working at a shop with cannondale KICKS ASS. But damn 5k I was thinking more like 3500 or something it must have an uber pimp parts spec. I never saw it in detail.dexterq20 said:Yeah, but it's also gonna be $5000. Ouch.
It does come w/ an e.thirteen guide and a carbon Lefty Max though, so it's nothing to complain about. Just a hefty price tag.
Believe it, bro. Our Cannondale rep just came into our shop today and showed us the whole 2005 lineup. Pretty impressive. All the Geminis have thru axles now, and they're making a production Gemini DH bike for a cool $6000.biker3 said:I find that extremely hard to believe but anyhow working at a shop with cannondale KICKS ASS. But damn 5k I was thinking more like 3500 or something it must have an uber pimp parts spec. I never saw it in detail.
no, it's not. i'm not a cannodale hata (one of my bikes is a gemini) but 5K for that bike is overpriced. manitou swinger air--decent shock, but is seen on plenty of mid-priced bikes. Hutchinson tires? big deal. Louise FR brakes? i see those advertised pretty cheap. Truvativ shows up on all kinds of low- and mid-priced bikes thanks to the good deal they give OEM's like Cannondale to get market share away from shimano.dexterq20 said:Believe it, bro. Our Cannondale rep just came into our shop today and showed us the whole 2005 lineup. Pretty impressive. All the Geminis have thru axles now, and they're making a production Gemini DH bike for a cool $6000.
The Prophet, however, is the new "thing" for C-dale this year. The Prophets start at about $1500 and go all the way up to $5000 for the 4x model.
Why does the 4x model cost so much, you ask? Well, let's see here...
-carbon Lefty Max w/ SPV damping and 140mm travel
-12mm thru axle frame
-Swinger 4-way air shock
-Magura Louise FR brakes
-Mavic 819 rims
-tubeless Hutchinson tires
-e.thirteen chainguide
-SRAM X.0/X.9 drivetrain
-new Truvativ crank and bb setup w/ outboard bearings (ala Shimano)
That good enough for ya?
You ride your 32 lbs Kona and I'll see you at the bottom. :eviltongupunkassean said:My 4" travel air sprung Kona Bear weighs exactly 30lb. and to be honest it is too light for most technical situations, I really like it for climbing but on descents it feels squirrelly. I especially notice the lack of rotating weight from my relatively light wheelset and tires once the bike is airborne. I really think 32-35lb. is about as light as an all-purpose "cross-stuntry" bike should be for more than one reason. Besides the feeling of being "spindly" there really is no way a bike that is too far below 30lb. can have enough material to hold up to the long term stresses that occur from that type of riding. Maybe technology will produce a super-light and durable bike but I think that to a certain extent weight is good.
Components: All top-shelf items. No corners cut. Therefore, it's expensive.frorider said:no, it's not. i'm not a cannodale hata (one of my bikes is a gemini) but 5K for that bike is overpriced. manitou swinger air--decent shock, but is seen on plenty of mid-priced bikes. Hutchinson tires? big deal. Louise FR brakes? i see those advertised pretty cheap. Truvativ shows up on all kinds of low- and mid-priced bikes thanks to the good deal they give OEM's like Cannondale to get market share away from shimano.
the frame itself does not appear to have massive CNC machining or an intricate linkage assembly. so no reason why it should be particularly expensive. hell, on my gemini, when you added up the components' cost the frame was free.
i have nothing against a Lefty fork, but as a cannondale component that means there should be no double markup so that doesn't explain the high price.
will this bike be using house-brand cannondale hubs? is c-dale using an elliptical ended thru axle hub on this frame?
I would think that in this instance licensing technology from Manitou would actually lower the cost because Cannondale's R&D to develop their own proprietary suspension components would cost more than utilizing technology already available and paying a "reasonable" fee for the rights.dexterq20 said:Components:
Fork: Not quite a Cannondale component. Externally, yes, it's all Cannondale, but the internals are all licensed from Manitou, so it's technically not a house-brand item. Licensed technology = higher cost.
Interesting...punkassean said:I would think that in this instance licensing technology from Manitou would actually lower the cost because Cannondale's R&D to develop their own proprietary suspension components would cost more than utilizing technology already available and paying a "reasonable" fee for the rights.
I agree with your other logic though...