Difference between FR hardtail and FR Dually

SirChomps-a-Lot · Jul 27, 2004

a hardtail will step your riding up a notch because it will force you to get smooth.

don't use it for "hucking" though... get all sortsa tech on it.

Do smaller drops to hone your technique. Hit up a skatepark. Learn to manual.

Curiouscaptian01 · Jul 27, 2004

yeah a hardtail is really fun for dirtjumping and messin round... but I have hit a few large drops on my hardtail and they arn't pleasent. I prefer to have a bike with some travel when I do want to hit drops. I dirtjump and drop, and trailride all on any bike though. A hardtail will teach you how to be more smooth.

Sir_Crackien · Jul 28, 2004

so true a hardtail will teach you to be much smoother. but as for not hittnig drops i don't understand. i have hit a couple 8-9' drops to a good transition and they felt smoother that if i would of been in a dually(which i have also ridden extensivally in the past) because of the skills that i have learned in the hardtail. it is the coolest thing to hit a big drop on a hardtail because people just don't think that it is possible. just remember that if you want to do a large drop on a hardtail(5'+) you will need a good transistion. doing a drop to flat on a hardtail of that size(5+') is pure stupidity. even though you may be able to land it your knees will hate you later in life!

rock on with the hardtail pride!!!

SkaredShtles · Jul 28, 2004

Smooth?? You wanna get smooth? Try it all on a rigid, yah pack of pansies.......

-S.S.-

w00dy · Jul 28, 2004

5 foot is not that bad on a HT if you get a good rear wheel first landing technique down.

TN · Jul 28, 2004

yesss

Sir_Crackien · Jul 28, 2004

yes you can do 5' to flat on a hardtail and make it feel good but that doesn't mean that it isn't seriuosly bad for your knees. i have done them myself, one of the drops to flat that i did was very close to 6' it felt good but you still know that it is bad for you. that is my point i'm not saying that it is not possible.

biggins · Jul 28, 2004

SkaredShtles said:
Smooth?? You wanna get smooth? Try it all on a rigid, yah pack of pansies.......

-S.S.-

sideways?is that you?

seriously once i got my hardtail i never rode my full suspension again in the park or on urban rides. i was riding a P1. it makes manualing and doing spins and stuff on the back wheel so much better. i did most of my dirt jumping on it as well except for the bigger ones.

SkaredShtles · Jul 28, 2004

biggins said:
sideways?is that you?
<snip>

Who's Sideways? For the record, I wouldn't ride a rigid or hardtail again because it doesn't really fit into the type of riding I like to do. Since I don't like getting the $hit beat out of me. :grumble:

-S.S.-

yellowfox · Jul 28, 2004

Heres my happy medium :love:

Only had her built for about a week with the super t on it. Had a 04 Z.1 perviously. I've done pretty big stair gaps and 5-6' to flats a lot. Biggest thing i hit was a 12 footer with a nice tranny. I'm looking for something big now that i have 7 plush inches

I have a set of 24" K-rads i run for street riding. The fork hurt doing bunny hops for sure but i can still get up on this 2' wall in front of my house pretty easy. Bunny hopping and manualing with the DH tires on it is a different story...

Tully · Jul 28, 2004

For those of you who ride/rode hardtails, how do they feel compared to full suspension when doing stair gaps or riding down stairs at speed? Are hardtails bone-jarring in those circumstances, or just a little rougher?

yellowfox · Jul 28, 2004

It really depends on how fast you are going and the stairs you are riding down i think. I have rode both. Never done a stair gap on a fully but i can tell you its amazingly smooth on a HT. Faster you go the smoother it is. Simple as that. Of course bigger stairs make it rougher as smaller stairs make it smoother also

biggins · Jul 28, 2004

Tully said:
For those of you who ride/rode hardtails, how do they feel compared to full suspension when doing stair gaps or riding down stairs at speed? Are hardtails bone-jarring in those circumstances, or just a little rougher?

i have hit lots of stair gaps and it is about the same.the amount of speed you carry is what really dictates it. i have hit 18 to 18 stair gaps on the hardtail with no issues at all.

Tully · Jul 28, 2004

Ok, thanks. That is pretty much what I expected.

TN · Jul 28, 2004

Tully said:
For those of you who ride/rode hardtails, how do they feel compared to full suspension when doing stair gaps or riding down stairs at speed? Are hardtails bone-jarring in those circumstances, or just a little rougher?

I mostly ride my Evil for urban but have taken La's Bullit out a few times & for urban my hardtail cant be beat. I can now do drops from about 5 1/2' on my hardtail & it really doesnt feel that bad....there is less room for forgiveness though. Now on rocky, rooty, rough DH I will take the Bullit handsdown.

my current urban assault vehicle set-up....

SirChomps-a-Lot · Jul 28, 2004

You'd be surprised how bumpy a trail you can pimp-slap on a ht... the secret is to be active on the bike. You have to tell it exactly where to be and when. Clipless pedals will help a ton in this regard.

yellowfox · Jul 28, 2004

tn i'm diggin the evil. I'm actually lookin at gettin a bullit for my DH rig. I race my 243 on DH now but i went to blue knob a couple weeks ago and got beat to crap. Do you think the bullits a good value?

dwaugh · Jul 28, 2004

I love my hardtail, its not expensive or anything, and isnt even meant for what I now use it for. Its great for DJ, urban, really easy to manual, I do lots of trail riding on it, etc. HT's really do make you a lot smoother and they can be a ton of fun to ride.

TN · Jul 28, 2004

yellowfox said:
tn i'm diggin the evil. I'm actually lookin at gettin a bullit for my DH rig. I race my 243 on DH now but i went to blue knob a couple weeks ago and got beat to crap. Do you think the bullits a good value?

thanx.
I ride my evil for DH too & have raced it & while I love riding it on the dirt, I decided that next year I might get a full skwish for DH & I am seriously looking at a Bullit. They are awsome bikes (although I am biased

).

mindlessfr · Mar 1, 2005

i have a ht singlespeed and i have more fun on that than i do on my stinky cause it makes me flow over all the bumps and keep up speed cause my gearing is 36:15

-BB- · Mar 1, 2005

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It was originally stareded by Zibbler. That middleaged ckick from Florida.
Remember her?

The Amish · Mar 1, 2005

Tully said:
For those of you who ride/rode hardtails, how do they feel compared to full suspension when doing stair gaps or riding down stairs at speed? Are hardtails bone-jarring in those circumstances, or just a little rougher?

It's realy the same thing just a little more mentaly challenging. Theres no reason for suspension when you ride urban its heavy and not as nimble. Invest in a strong shock like a dj, get a solid rear wheel and nothing will stand in your way

Difference between FR hardtail and FR Dually

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