Well, they were able to add width, and make them lighter than the 31.8 versions.can i ask why ? just another new standard in industry with too many ones !
current bars and stems are plenty stiff (imho) and the weights are nothing ground breaking (other than the direct mount maybe).if this bigger diameter resulted in much lighter bars than i see the logic, but when its just the same than whats the point ?
Uh, some guy named Aaron Gwin...I want to meet people that ride bars wider than 750. One of the site (Dirt Maybe?) interviewed a bunch of pros in a video and measured their bars and none of the top guys were riding anything wider than 750. Do amatuers know something the pro's don't?
Those bars on his bike aren't actually 780 ( have the same pair), he runs his grips slightly hanging off the bars.
if you are committed to riding Easton than i get it, otherwise ... ?Well, they were able to add width, and make them lighter than the 31.8 versions.
Lighter, stiffer, stronger. DUH!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mattmatt86 again.I bet the people at Problem Solvers throw a party everytime a new standard comes out.
I run 750 on my trail bikes, and 780 on my DH. I started at 800 and cut them down. If you are a big guy with long arms, then it feels really good. Even my wife is running 750 on her AM bikeI want to meet people that ride bars wider than 750. One of the site (Dirt Maybe?) interviewed a bunch of pros in a video and measured their bars and none of the top guys were riding anything wider than 750. Do amatuers know something the pro's don't?
Me too. It feels great, and I'm not that big either, about 181cm (that's a little bit over 5' 11" for you Americans who want to have your own standards for measurements ).I run 750 on my trail bikes, and 780 on my DH.
I know, I agree with you. I was just in a Haters Gonna Hate kinda mood.Love it when people use the "well the pros run..." arguement. Pros are not normal people. Comparing them to schmoes like us is like comparing a lamborghini to a VW. They're stupid fit, stronger than bears and not at all right in the head.
Yeah agreed. Mozartt make riser plates for below the stem. PO1NT have some good height DMs. High rise bar options would be ideal but.Not bad; Im just a little fed up with every DM stem having 'negative rise' - not everyone wants or needs or can even use a completely slammed front end. Most people I see running slammed stems still run some kind of rise in their bars, so WTH! I can get a flat bar or one with 3" of rise so leave the stem rise alone. [ Except in this case you have only slammed stem and bars to choose from.
True but trivial, depends on headtube lengths, fork model. and who want a mile of flexier stanchion and high BB, when an angle set would do the same.a slammed stem / bar makes only sense when you lower your stanchions in the crowns to achieve a slacker headangle. buckoW mentioned that somewhere on here (can't find the post, sorry), i tried and like it.
you actually raise your fork to slacken the HA out and then use a lower bar and/or stem to correct the ride height.
don't know if that makes any sense to anyone...
I do. Why? For starters, I have a 6'5" armspan. Secondly, I have a pretty serious shoulder injury that for whatever reason is more comfortable with wider bars. Wider = less shoulder pain = happier HAB.I want to meet people that ride bars wider than 750. One of the site (Dirt Maybe?) interviewed a bunch of pros in a video and measured their bars and none of the top guys were riding anything wider than 750. Do amatuers know something the pro's don't?
A friend of mine has been playing a lot of stem designs and if you want a light stem you really need a 35mm standard. It's a marginal improvement but at this point all gear improvements will be. You will see a big change only after a series of them.Love it when people use the "well the pros run..." arguement. Pros are not normal people. Comparing them to schmoes like us is like comparing a lamborghini to a VW. They're stupid fit, stronger than bears and not at all right in the head.
Anyways, not sure this standard is really needed. It reeks of another "what other marginal improvement can we put out there to sell more junk?" The industry is really good at those.
Having stiffness issues with your bar? Buy Renthals. Bar too narrow? I dunno about that one. I am 6'3 and a 750 feels mighty wide ot me, but everybody is different and I know there are some seriously sasquatch type people on here. But I mean, at what point do you end up with bars so wide your face is resting on your stem?
agreed X 10....renthal bar and stem combo is F'ing bonkers...i've never felt anything like that.....i nose cased and crashed so hard recently that i pushed one side of my boxxer upper crown about 3/4ths of an inch farther down than the other side, yet my bar remained straight and my stem didn't budge....that's unheard of....i've smoked bars and twisted up stems a bunch in the past....renthal is untouchable....it's idiotic to run anything elseLove it when people use the "well the pros run..." arguement. Pros are not normal people. Comparing them to schmoes like us is like comparing a lamborghini to a VW. They're stupid fit, stronger than bears and not at all right in the head.
Anyways, not sure this standard is really needed. It reeks of another "what other marginal improvement can we put out there to sell more junk?" The industry is really good at those.
Having stiffness issues with your bar? Buy Renthals. Bar too narrow? I dunno about that one. I am 6'3 and a 750 feels mighty wide ot me, but everybody is different and I know there are some seriously sasquatch type people on here. But I mean, at what point do you end up with bars so wide your face is resting on your stem?
Pictures?i've smoked bars and twisted up stems a bunch in the past....renthal is untouchable....it's idiotic to run anything else
I'm going to counterpoint you Ian. Mostly cause I agree with your post. I just got myself a set of Fatbars recently, and they're mega stiff. They just feel bombproof.agreed X 10....renthal bar and stem combo is F'ing bonkers...i've never felt anything like that.....i nose cased and crashed so hard recently that i pushed one side of my boxxer upper crown about 3/4ths of an inch farther down than the other side, yet my bar remained straight and my stem didn't budge....that's unheard of....i've smoked bars and twisted up stems a bunch in the past....renthal is untouchable....it's idiotic to run anything else
strange you say that because it's one of my favorite parts of that bar....my hands just feel comfortable on them moreso than other offerings in terms up up and backsweep....i like the idea behind the 35mm interface, but i just hope they increase they offerings in height.....renthal offers 4 heights...pretty sickI'm going to counterpoint you Ian. Mostly cause I agree with your post. I just got myself a set of Fatbars recently, and they're mega stiff. They just feel bombproof.
Except, I just can't seem to dial in the bend(
ok, i'm so called out, i don't save pictures of all of the parts i destroy....i don't have time for that man, sorry....and i also think it's lame to post pics of busted products on the internet (especially with no frame of reference)Pictures?
Its 1 1/4 inches, it just always gets quoted in milimeters.35mm does seem to make more sense. Who pulled the diameter 31.8mm out of the bag anyway? Seems incredibly specific to have just been kicked out to the market.