RUXI can't recall it, that why I was asking. I recall the air/coil elements in series. It was a prototype DH fork, but I can't find anything on it.
Foes did it on their F1 fork as far as I recall.I can't recall it, that why I was asking. I recall the air/coil elements in series. It was a prototype DH fork, but I can't find anything on it.
Yeah, I wasn't referring to air assist forks, but to two different spring elements put in series, just like the EXT one.Were these air assisted spring forks?
The ext is full air and the air spring could be used alone. The spring is just there to add sensitivity.
The same but done to completion.....?The crown is brilliant. Can't believe nobody thought of that before.
I don't think this is what you're referring to, but the last gen Zoch 66 RC2X had coil springs in both legs and air assist for both sides as well. Having ridden one recently for a gag, it was pretty startling, as it actually rode like a boss - too bad it weighs more than a Mosler safe.I can't recall it, that why I was asking. I recall the air/coil elements in series. It was a prototype DH fork, but I can't find anything on it.
That's why I still have mine, with the last gen RC2 damper in it.makes me miss my old van36
I have a yari with an Avy cartridge and Push coil kit, I love this fork. Today I'd get the hybrid coil/ air from Avalanche. A takeoff Yari is about 400.00 and the Avalanche damper/coil is 500.00. This can be done with a Bomber or fox 36 as well.Considering all new top offerings on the market and how much value their solutions nowadays bring to the table, I am seriously considering buying a low end fork (Yari) and buy some afterwork goodness for both legs.
That way I have a solid chassis, custom tuned damping and can decide which spring (coil, because ) characteristics I want.
Has someone in here expirience with the YARI cartrdige from MST?
Otherwise going full dentist and buying an EXT or the new Öhlins offerings might do the trick aye?
No experience from MST.Has someone in here expirience with the YARI cartrdige from MST?
That's interesting! I have a 2009 36 RC2 with the non inverted cartridge that tend to suck up oil in the bladder. I wonder if a newer cartridge would fit?That's why I still have mine, with the last gen RC2 damper in it.
I would go custom. Best trailbike fork I have ever ridden bar none.Considering all new top offerings on the market and how much value their solutions nowadays bring to the table, I am seriously considering buying a low end fork (Yari) and buy some afterwork goodness for both legs.
That way I have a solid chassis, custom tuned damping and can decide which spring (coil, because ) characteristics I want.
Has someone in here expirience with the YARI cartrdige from MST?
Otherwise going full dentist and buying an EXT or the new Öhlins offerings might do the trick aye?
There was a kit that fit in the old rebound on top chassis. I got two of them.That's interesting! I have a 2009 36 RC2 with the non inverted cartridge that tend to suck up oil in the bladder. I wonder if a newer cartridge would fit?
Do you have a picture or a link?There was a kit that fit in the old rebound on top chassis. I got two of them.
Code should be 820-08-128-KIT for the 2011-2014 gen cart, didn't find the last 2015+ one...Do you have a picture or a link?
In the meantime I will consider the possibility of transforming my actual close cartridge to an open oneCode should be 820-08-128-KIT for the 2011-2014 gen cart, didn't find the last 2015+ one...
Pics when I'm back home. I'm on vacation right now.
So you're talking about Trek's DRCV system, but the negative chamber, right? I thought the same.@FarkinRyan
Do you have some inside pictures for the monkeys?
My guess after several beers is that there is an ifp inside that tube with a mean to equalise the pressure when the fork is not loaded. Then a needle or something similar close the extra volume once the pressure in the negative chamber drops to a certain level (corresponding to somewhere between 20 and 40 mm of travel) from that on the air spring runs on a smal negative chamber.
Yes exactly, just closing the extra volume instead of opening it like they did on their rear shocksSo you're talking about Trek's DRCV system, but the negative chamber, right? I thought the same.
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Normalize pressure in the lower volume?So from the foot stud, it sure looks like one of the ports is connected to the negative chamber, and the other goes to the bottom of the lowers, outside of the air spring entirely. Sounds like the idea is to use the canister to increase the volume of both the negative chamber and free air in the lowers, with an IFP to potentially further increase the lower volume while slowing the drop in volume in the negative spring as the fork cycles?
I haven't thought about it hard enough to come up with a theory for the equalization button on the bottom of the unit though.
It's somehow tied to the negative chamber though, since the instructions say you need to hold the button down while letting air out of the fork for disassembly. And I can't imagine the idea is to pressurize the lowers on purpose.Normalize pressure in the lower volume?
Freedom nipple it nao?It's somehow tied to the negative chamber though, since the instructions say you need to hold the button down while letting air out of the fork for disassembly. And I can't imagine the idea is to pressurize the lowers on purpose.
Shouldn't work but you're not the first person to report that either! Always cool to hear that people have been able to go back though.I've been riding a Smashpot for about a year now and installed the air spring out of curiosity a few days ago - perfect seal, no visible damage inside the stanchion.
Yeah, but those 38s and 36s are probably still shittyThe aftermarket fork add-on market is going crazy though. One thing is buying a take-off Yari and add whatever spring/damper you like to end up with a similar cost to a higher end fork, but putting this stuff in a brand new 38 or a top-end 36 is surely beyond dentist stupid.