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Found mold in apt. :Need Advice:

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 18, 2005
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So I have just found black mold in my apartment. Being someone with both asthma and allergies I have to get out of this place immediately. Luckily my lease is already up and I have been going month to month. I am required to give 30 days notice before I leave but with my current health and pollen season around the corner I want to be gone yesterday!:mad:

Im drafting up an email to write over to the complex explaining what I have found with pictures and what I would like to have happen to see me out of there. Do you think these conditions are over the top?

1. I want my security deposit back, no questions asked.
2. I want to be excluded from this 30 day rule, I will be leaving the apt in its current state. Carpets are as is and paint I put up is as is.

Some background: Over the last year I have had 4 random but serious respiratory infections. (Pneumonia, bronchitis, asthma attacks.) I would typically wake up unable to breathe. These symptoms never showed after serious cardio ( bike race, gym, etc.)
and prior to living at this place I haven’t had any major asthma problems in over 20 years. Last summer/fall one of my bathroom walls was beginning to peel paint. I went to maintenance and had them come and inspect my apt. They came inspected both my place and adjacent neighbors. I was told there was no mold and they repainted the bathroom no problem. Being fall I didn’t really run the ac unit much but over this winter and spring the air quality in my apt has dropped. I bought a filter and a humidifier per recommendation. No dice. Still getting sick. I asked them to come double check the apt in February, no mold found. Finally last week I requested new air filters and went to double check that they actually installed the filters rather than leaving them at my door. I go to change the filter and notice that the wall behind the AC unit is black from the floor to about waist level. The paint on the ceiling is also pealing and the strips of some sort of adhesive have fallen off of the wall.

…I guess I have the answer to my respiratory problems. But I’m looking for advice on what to do from this point? Unfortunately I didn’t renew my renters insurance this year. Should I before I go to the office to make my claim? I will also probably be going to see a specialist about my lungs in the coming days. I’m I really don’t want to get in to any kind of arguments or lawsuits I really just want to cut ties and move on to a better place. Im drafting up an email to send over to the office now explaining the situation and what I would like to do? Any other advice you monkeys can give?
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Take them down. You can't get that kind of growth over night, and if they did change the filter they would have seen the mold.
 

ridiculous

Turbo Monkey
Jan 18, 2005
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Yeah. I left that part out. They changed the filter and havent said anything to me. There is no way you can miss it changing the filter.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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Tell them you're getting out now and they're going to give you everything you want or you're calling the Dept of Health. Mold is a VERY, VERY, VERY serious issue, and if the DoH gets involved he's fvcked. He'd might have to do a full-on remediation through a separate company, do tests, legally tell future tenants, etc.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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So I have just found black mold in my apartment.

…I guess I have the answer to my respiratory problems.
Step 1 before issuing threats might be making sure it's even the type of mold that could cause a respiratory issue. There are litteraly thousands of species of molds that are black.
 

kazlx

Patches O'Houlihan
Aug 7, 2006
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Health Dept still doesn't take kindly to any sort of mold issues. I would get want you want and then still throw the landlord to the dogs. He or she has it coming. IMO, there is no reason to half-ass maintain where people live when they pay you money to live there.
 

kazlx

Patches O'Houlihan
Aug 7, 2006
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The best part is that it was after we convinced him to. He was just going to move out and go about his business. Ridemonkey FTW.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,691
7,369
Colorado
Holy hell! Tell them that you are moving out today and that you expect a full refund of your deposit and the pro-rata remainder of your rent. If he argues, let him know that you have dates of service documented and that nothng was done between the services, especially given the recent filter change.
You *should* get your way and be able to leave with all of your money. Once you move out, call health services and send them your pics and documentation. If he'll do it to you, he'll do it to someone else.
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
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  1. Get a hold of the local tennants right organization and see what info they have to offer.
  2. Take a ton of pics. Detailed ones.
  3. Write everything down. All the facts, how long you've lived there, the history of maintenance to the place, the date/time you noticed the mold, etc. Be specific and detailed.
  4. PRINT IT. Don't email it.
  5. Send the detailed letter to the landlord REGISTERED MAIL.
I don't know what the laws are in your area, but DO NOT withhold rent. Until issues are settled, this could give the landlord legal legs to stand on. Pay the rent in-full and on time. If there has been a moisture/mold issue for as long as you've lived there, it's possible to get back all the rent paid in that time. Don't give them legal legs to stand on in the meantime by not paying. In California the landlord can evict you for unpaid rent before the mold issue or uninhabitable conditions have been legally determined.

Tread carefully and play it by the book.
 

TN

Hey baby, want a hot dog?
Jul 9, 2002
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not all mold is deadly, or will do anything bad to you unless you are allergic (missed that in the OP). Most mold is benign.

Good luck with the deposit. It always is a crap shoot!
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
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BTW - where there is mold, there is/was moisture, plain and simple. You had a leak in your pipes or roof at some point (or still do)

Once the moisture problem has been fixed, mold will not flourish but it HAS to be removed properly. It doesn't just clean itself.
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
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Some background: Over the last year I have had 4 random but serious respiratory infections. (Pneumonia, bronchitis, asthma attacks.) I would typically wake up unable to breathe. These symptoms never showed after serious cardio ( bike race, gym, etc.)
and prior to living at this place I haven’t had any major asthma problems in over 20 years. Last summer/fall one of my bathroom walls was beginning to peel paint. I went to maintenance and had them come and inspect my apt. They came inspected both my place and adjacent neighbors. I was told there was no mold and they repainted the bathroom no problem. Being fall I didn’t really run the ac unit much but over this winter and spring the air quality in my apt has dropped. I bought a filter and a humidifier per recommendation. No dice. Still getting sick. I asked them to come double check the apt in February, no mold found. Finally last week I requested new air filters and went to double check that they actually installed the filters rather than leaving them at my door. I go to change the filter and notice that the wall behind the AC unit is black from the floor to about waist level. The paint on the ceiling is also pealing and the strips of some sort of adhesive have fallen off of the wall.
Write all of this down in the complaint letter. Print 3 copies. Make sure all are dated. Send one copy registered mail to the landlord, mail one copy to yourself (keep it sealed) and keep one printed copy on file.

Keep a cool head in the letter and do not make demands/threats. State the facts and let them know you are contacting tenants rights groups for advise on how to proceed legally. (no....not Ridemonkey...real people)

Once they see you playing by the book they will jump through hoops. Just make sure you know ALL of your rights and go at them armed with the facts.

Good luck!
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
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I’m I really don’t want to get in to any kind of arguments or lawsuits I really just want to cut ties and move on to a better place.
Please remember that a landlord that paints over a problem doesn't really give a flying fvck about you.

Be prepared for a fight. You have mold, they have your money.

Play it right and by the books and it's mold FTW.
 

ridiculous

Turbo Monkey
Jan 18, 2005
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MD / NoVA
  1. Get a hold of the local tennants right organization and see what info they have to offer.
  2. Take a ton of pics. Detailed ones.
  3. Write everything down. All the facts, how long you've lived there, the history of maintenance to the place, the date/time you noticed the mold, etc. Be specific and detailed.
  4. PRINT IT. Don't email it.
  5. Send the detailed letter to the landlord REGISTERED MAIL.
I don't know what the laws are in your area, but DO NOT withhold rent. Until issues are settled, this could give the landlord legal legs to stand on. Pay the rent in-full and on time. If there has been a moisture/mold issue for as long as you've lived there, it's possible to get back all the rent paid in that time. Don't give them legal legs to stand on in the meantime by not paying. In California the landlord can evict you for unpaid rent before the mold issue or uninhabitable conditions have been legally determined.

Tread carefully and play it by the book.

Will do. In this letter should I also write down what I would like to have happen? (Possible reimbursement, deposit returned, swift exit etc). Im supposed to have a talk with the site manager tomorrow but I can hold off seeing him until I know that letter arrives at his office.

not all mold is deadly, or will do anything bad to you unless you are allergic (missed that in the OP). Most mold is benign.

Good luck with the deposit. It always is a crap shoot!
Yeah, this is one thing im hoping the doctors visit can help with. But I had 4 serious respiratory related illnesses within the last 12 months, the last of which I'm still fighting. I also have asthma which doesnt help.

can you just not go in that room?
I think that was my problem; I just never went in that room. That area is part of a hall closet that only contains some electronic equipment for my cable service and the AC unit you see in the photos. Though, at one point I was storing some bike wheels and tires in there but I removed them because I thought the tires being in the same room as the ac intake were degrading the air quality.

The sad part of all of this is that neither myself or the guy that changes my air filter once a month noticed the mold growing. Like you guys have said, this sh*t didnt just show up one day.