Define right wing.
Goodbye freedom...
Dang it!!!
This is the perfect place to post it...because if you can't back it up with irrefutable facts and sound reasoning, you're going to get your ass handed to you on a silver platter. This thread is a perfect example. Read the bill being pushed through congress right now. Site it. Then argue for/against it. Not some speech made years ago.The only thing that distracted me was the lashing I got from all the libs in this thread attacking me for having a different opinion about something your beloved government decided to make a big deal about. THEY are the ones that made public service announcement about forwarding my hate emails to them. I'm just not a big fan of the government getting into my sh!t. Whether they do something "bad" or good with it doesn't matter. The fact that they want to collect data on us using each other is wrong.
" In the meantime, both sides of government and some very powerful lobbies are commitment unspeakable acts of horror on our economy and healthcare"
We agree on that.
I know I'm a little fish in a big pond of liberal mindset in here. My intention wasn't to get into a heated debate. I did go back and look through some other threads and realized that this is not the place to post an opinion that isn't completely liberal.
You guys are tough and very well read in you "propaganda". I will have do the same if I want to contend with the likes of you.
Mindless yammering and spouting Fox talking points doesn't prove anything besides the fact that you're not up to date with what's actually going on.
kthxbai.
Actually, there's a pretty broad array of opinions and philosophies here. It's not some monolithic "liberal" mindset that prevails. What you don't really see too much of are the irrational, legislate by the Bible, Palin-loving, anti-thought conservatives posting much, because generally they get their asses handed to them as you are here.
There's some smart folks around. Do yourself a favor and learn something.
Also, bring facts to the table if you want to sound reasonable.
Nope, but that's all you get.
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1. (initial capital letter) a member of the Communist party or movement.
2. an advocate of communism.
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4. (usually initial capital letter) a Communard.
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hmmm.,...thought i was a right winger. Now I'm confused!
It's not because we're liberal, its because we can differentiate between facts, opinions, and speculation.
There you go being all succinct and stuff...^^that's what I meant...damn it...
You are right. I need to read the bill (so does congress and the senate). But my opinion didn't come from Faux News. You guys think that I'm some right wing yes man for the republican party. Ain't true.
Some speech made years ago is just as relevant as one made today if it is his heart.
My original post was fact...
A quote with a video right from the source. Maybe if I titled it "Utopia" there wouldn't been the backlash.
The only thing I learned in college was paraphrasingThere you go being all succinct and stuff...^^that's what I meant...damn it...
I only see one opinion in here.
And just where do I go to "learn" something?
Oh so now I'm an "irrational, legislate by the Bible, Palin-loving, anti-thought conservative" ...right. Well you got part of the concept correct. I do believe the Bible, I think Palin has some good qualities, and I'm conservative in nature.
Thanks for YOUR intelligent contribution.
They're called "schools". Your taxes pay for them and for people to attend them, whether or not you or your children have used them. OH NO SOCIALISM!
How is you posting this any different than me "yammering and spouting Fox talking points"?
We all get our information from some source or another. I think we gravitate toward what feels right (or factual) in our heart.
You: Lib
Me: not so much
Yes. Post #1 is fact.
That has no bearing on the FACT that you just admitted to not having read the health care bill that you have adamantly said you're opposed to.
Your opinion is yours. Fine. But if you come in here thinking that all you have to do is post it (uninformed and misguided at that) and feel good about it...then you have another thing coming.
It feels factual in my heart...
wait, wat?
wait, wat?
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Wait, so your all of those things and the Bush administration scared you? Damn, what kind of fascist are you?
*I even included a link for the definition so you can look it up, since the right seems to use that word so frequently out of context and definition.
Why do you hate freedom?©
So, wait a minute...Is the UK currently socialist? Is Germany currently socialist?
What exactly is meant by the term 'socialist'? I mean, what is really meant by it?
What exactly is meant by the term 'socialist'? I mean, what is really meant by it?
I thought Socialism was all about Socializing?
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ummmm...
whether they have access to your inbox is debatable, but they definitely have access while in transit.
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And on this healthcare thing, it is pretty funked up now.
I have trouble imagining how government could make it worse.
But I trust our government will find a way.
so what makes you lean left?
The floor isn't level.
What I have read I don't like. I don't like government running anything. I also don't like the fact that they tried to push it thorough so quickly without reading themselves.
What's worse? Me having an opinion and not reading it all or them passing it without reading it? Who's misguided? It's their job to know what they are voting on. Do you vote without knowing what you are voting on? Even the Dems that don't agree with the bill are getting buffaloed into voting for it in order to keep their jobs.
Have you read the whole thing?
I posted it to get some opinion, not to "feel good" about it.
That's they way most Americans do it.
What have I said that makes me a fascist?stolen from the flow charts thread
Wait, so your all of those things and the Bush administration scared you? Damn, what kind of fascist are you?
*I even included a link for the definition so you can look it up, since the right seems to use that word so frequently out of context and definition.
I don't like the government running it either, but the Health Insurance companies have proven that the only thing they can do is a sh*tty job.
That explains a lot....
You're not the only conservative, plenty of libertarians floating around in here, and a few social conservatives. I personally fall somewhere between libertarian and liberal... in most situations I believe pretty strongly in the free-market (with clear and stable rules, but no/minimal intervention), but healthcare is an exception. I've posted longer justifications in other threads, but free-market mechanisms don't work when you have a completely price-insensitive consumer. My last remaining hope for private healthcare is all-inclusive managed care like Kaiser (effectively private single payer) which was horrendous 5 years ago, but seems to have figured it out. Unless the Kaisers of the world take over, single-payer BASIC healthcare is the best available solution.
You got jumped on, because you opened with a completely misinformed, sensationalist piece of propaganda, whether you realized it at the time or not. That stuff will always get attacked, from left or right. But there's plenty of quality debate... I know I've been swayed towards more conservative viewpoints with regards to bailouts, stimulus, and market regulation.
There's another thread on social programs. I'll paraphrase:
For-profit police organizations, mercenary firefighters, El-hi education...the list goes on. Buck up.
It's not about what's worse, it's the simple fact that uninformed nonsense is still uninformed nonsense. If we (the people) elect someone who doesn't spend the time to figure out what they're voting on, I guess we (the people) didn't do our due diligence, did we (the people)?
Nope. But then again, I'm not debating specific issues. I'm just calling your bullsh*t.
So you don't feel good about your opinion...that's very telling.
I know. I've read a small amount of other threads you have posted on.
WOn't someone PLEASE think of the children!!
How would you feel about the govt. privatizing the armed services? It seems logical according your worldview.