http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20041109/ts_nm/iraq_usa_dc
RIP guys, wonder why GWB didn't do this *before* the election??
RIP guys, wonder why GWB didn't do this *before* the election??
The fighting claimed three American lives part of a surge in casualties that killed 16 U.S. troops in the past two days across Iraq. U.S. officials said that on Monday, they recorded 130 attacks.
slow down there killer... I think you missed a couple keysN8 said:I blame Kerry for this!
I he hadn't such a waste and blown the election he'd be in charge there real soon..
Colon Powell? The guy that testified in front of the UN saying that Iraq was an immediate threat as he held a vile of fake anthrax? Yeah, good quote there.dante said:no, I blame the guy who successfully "protected" us from the WMD that wasn't there. in the words of Colin Powell, "You broke it, you bought it Mr. President".
Another formerly strong personality who got on his knees for GWB.BurlyShirley said:Colon Powell? The guy that testified in front of the UN saying that Iraq was an immediate threat as he held a vile of fake anthrax?
GO AMERICA!Falluja Assault Roils Iraqi Politics
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Nov. 9 - In the first major political backlash over the siege of Falluja, the country's most prominent Sunni political party said today that it was withdrawing from the interim Iraqi government, while the leading group of Sunni clerics called for Iraqis to boycott the upcoming elections.
The moves signaled that popular protest against the American-led invasion, particularly among Sunni Arabs, will likely grow in the coming days.
A boycott by Sunnis, if indeed one comes to pass, would threaten the legitimacy of the outcome and could undermine the rationale for attacking Falluja, which was to drive the insurgents out of the city so residents could take part in the elections.
Changleen said:
Sarcasm, dude...BurlyShirley said:That isnt exactly good news chang. I mean, if your interest is saving human lives and all
Easy there killer, some of us have people who are very dear to us over there risking their lives. And a large portion of that "some of us" could give a f*** whether you deem the end , or the means, as a worthwhile cause.Changleen said:GO AMERICA!
Consider yourself offended then. This is a stupid, pointless, illegal war. Anyone with half a brain would have refused to serve, even if that meant going to prison.s1ngletrack said:Easy there killer, some of us have people who are very dear to us over there risking their lives. And a large portion of that "some of us" could give a f*** whether you deem the end , or the means, as a worthwhile cause.
To take an extraordinarly complex and ugly situation and reduce it to fodder for e-bashing is simplistic to the point of being extremely offensive.
You expect me to dignify that with a response?Changleen said:Consider yourself offended then. This is a stupid, pointless, illegal war. Anyone with half a brain would have refused to serve, even if that meant going to prison.
You just did. Pity you couldn't think of a good one, eh?s1ngletrack said:You expect me to dignify that with a response?
glad you live in new zealand rather then over here. That is the stupidest thing i have ever heard comne out of your mouth. I love people who try and justify war as being legal vs illegal.Changleen said:Consider yourself offended then. This is a stupid, pointless, illegal war. Anyone with half a brain would have refused to serve, even if that meant going to prison.
Guess again. I've just chosen not to take the rantings of some idealist twat in NZ seriously. I might feel passionately about some things, but that doesn't mean that I chuck reason and compassion out the window whenever my chance to mount the soapbox comes around.Changleen said:You just did. Pity you couldn't think of a good one, eh?
Me too!Transcend said:glad you live in new zealand rather then over here.
Halucinating now are we?That is the stupidest thing i have ever heard comne out of your mouth.
Don't forget pointless and stupid! Stupid especially.I love people who try and justify war as being legal vs illegal.
Thanks Prof. Trancend.Guess what? You breached another countries sovereignty, therefore any war is illegal. by definition.
Good job for brainless fools then. No great loss if they don't come back.Being a soldier is a job. They join and are trained to serve. It is not their position to question orders, simply carry them out.
Like George Bush did when he started this stupid, pointless war?s1ngletrack said:Guess again. I've just chosen not to take the rantings of some idealist twat in NZ seriously. I might feel passionately about some things, but that doesn't mean that I chuck reason and compassion out the window whenever my chance to mount the soapbox comes around.
wow someone needs to grow up.Changleen said:Me too!
Halucinating now are we?
Don't forget pointless and stupid! Stupid especially.
Thanks Prof. Trancend.
Good job for brainless fools then. No great loss if they don't come back.
don't worry about it, he is just bitter his sheep isn't putting out this week.s1ngletrack said:Guess again. I've just chosen not to take the rantings of some idealist twat in NZ seriously. I might feel passionately about some things, but that doesn't mean that I chuck reason and compassion out the window whenever my chance to mount the soapbox comes around.
Thanks, Dali F***ing Changleen Lama... What was his name again? George Bush? Nope, that's not my brother.Changleen said:Like George Bush did when he started this stupid, pointless war?
No, I have a whole brain. People with a whole brain can also critically appraise a situation before they get into it, and realise - Hey, this is going to be a stupid, pointless war! I don't want a thing to do with it!Transcend said:Anyone with a half a brain would know something about valour, integrity and honor. Apparently you do not have half a brain.
Broad generalization: People with no argument attack the messenger, not the message.broad generalization: people who discuss matters like this the way you do, have no real clue about how the world actually works around their sheltered little bubbles of freedom. Please get a clue and call me in the morning.
Wow, even I think that should get an award for Ignorant post of the month...Changleen said:Consider yourself offended then. This is a stupid, pointless, illegal war. Anyone with half a brain would have refused to serve, even if that meant going to prison.
Wow, you have the most cutting wit I've ever seen. You should be on TV. Pathetic - I guess I was kidding myself to expect any more from you. Get back to class, child.Transcend said:don't worry about it, he is just bitter his sheep isn't putting out this week.
Ignore my last post... this is the most ignorant post I think I have ever heard from anyone; EVER.Changleen said:Good job for brainless fools then. No great loss if they don't come back.
Ever heard of concientious objection? No?Slugman said:Ignore my last post... this is the most ignorant post I think I have ever heard from anyone; EVER.
Ever heard of concientious objection? No?s1ngletrack said:I glad that you are enjoying your time in the spotlight here. I'm happy for you that you live a life that affords you opportunities to make broad generalizations about the value of hundreds of thousands of people that you do not know. It must be a great thing not to worry about the fact that your brother, with a wife and two kids, is leaving for Iraq, for the second time, in less than a week. That must be really nice for you - it seems to be working out well - all of that - and such intelligence and compassion to boot.
Golly - you're just a modern day Ralph Waldo Emerson, aren't you? Bet they never taught you that he was a spoiled little blue - blood (upper class) b1tch who knew that, aside from one lonely night as a martyr, he could act with impunity, because someone would be there to clean up after him.Changleen said:Ever heard of concientious objection? No?
ya, it is called being a pussy.Changleen said:Ever heard of concientious objection? No?
HELLO? Do you understand why you are in Iraq? You're 'cleaning up' (killing innocent people) after a liar and a self interested agenda of idiocy and hatred! Don't try to spout cr4p about freedom and democracy. Iraq has NOTHING to do with either of those things.s1ngletrack said:Golly - you're just a modern day Ralph Waldo Emerson, aren't you? Bet they never taught you that he was a spoiled little blue - blood (upper class) b1tch who knew that, aside from one lonely night as a martyr, he could act with impunity, because someone would be there to clean up after him.
Yes... ever heard of simple respect?Changleen said:Ever heard of concientious objection? No?
Is the equation of taking a genuine moral standpoint with 'being a pussy' taught as part of being part of your PHD? Sounds like you're getting a quality education there. No child left behind, I suppose.Transcend said:ya, it is called being a pussy.
You take advantage of what your country offers you for employment and training, and then when you are actually called to do you job, you decide you can't hack it and pull out. Don';t join the millitary if you dont want to go to war. It is simple.
You have zero argument, except to call a war stupid, and illegal. One of which is an objective claim, the other is by definition, correct but not in the way you use it.
As for going back to class...call me when you get yourself a PHD in international relations k? k great. In the mean time, go back to pumping gas.
Hey nut5sack - have I once, in any post on this site (or anywhere, for that matter) - said that we should be in Iraq? What was that cute little saying about messages and messengers that you used not 4 posts ago?Changleen said:HELLO? Do you understand why you are in Iraq? You're 'cleaning up' (killing innocent people) after a liar and a self interested agenda of idiocy and hatred! Don't try to spout cr4p about freedom and democracy. Iraq has NOTHING to do with either of those things.
WHY? They are acting as the unthinking proxies of an idiot! They are killing innocent people for him in a POINTLESS and STUPID WAR! How does that deserve respect?Slugman said:Yes... ever heard of simple respect?
Regardless of your and I's opinion of the war, the men and women that are fighting this war deserve respect.
wow - that was compelling.mattv2099 said:You know what? I don't give 1 f*ck about the 10 dead americans. I care more for the 839 Iraqi's they slaghtered before they died... ****ing senseless man.