[Changleen]

Someone get Bletchley Park on the phone...

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[bigdrop05]

I'm glad you post here. Every forum needs a raving lunatic without even a tenuous link to reality. Good job Slim Pickens.

your a :trophy_br dildo

 

[MikeD]

your a :trophy_br dildo

He's a master dildoist, in fact. On the other hand...that quote is some perfect title material for you, too.

 

[Transcend]

I realize it's something you can't accept, but seriously think of where Canada would be without the US. What would Canada do if it was threatened? Use their 15 US made F-16's, launch a torrent of mounties? Canada is completely dependent on the US for their national security and thus so is your freedom. Not invading someone doesn't mean attacks will stop or that you won't be attacked because history proves otherwise. You want to hug and share flowers with people that hate you and I say go ahead. Just don't complain when you are screaming "Uncle!" and no one comes to your side.
I'm not bitter that Iran has or wants nukes. I've always considered them a threat, even more so than Iraq. Get off your short-man horse, get in your yellow Miata, drive down to the library, and pick up a history book. I know that when someone tells me to "shut up" on the internet, that I have won my arguement.

Wow, you are delusional. You also know nothing about the canadian millitary, including how our f18 pilots tradionally school all the other pilots at the US based top gun school. Or forget the fact that most of the US recon vehicles are manufactured in Canada.

Thanks for playing, you clearly know nothing and are now on the ignore list.

 

[The Amish]

Sure, you can bash the the US. That's a luxury that you can exercise. But the irony is that luxury was paid for by the US. So I say go ahead, bite the hand that feeds your freedom. Every time you write your self described e-bully posts to satisfy one of your multiple insecurities, you have to feel just a wince of hypocrisy.

The problem with that particular duche is he has the luxury of live'n in the shadow of the giants. Like many Canadian he's completly ungrateful for the fact that he gets to live in his ignorant burnt out bliss because American men and women put their ass's on the line day in and day out to ensure our part of the world doesnt live in the insanity of societies like those found in the middle east, and asia. They dont sacrifice for their freedoms, they piggy back on our own struggles as the defacto bitch of north america, reap all the benefts with none of the costs. What do you expect they're basically french. At the end of the day, theres a simple explanation why canadians love to hate on americans, its called penis envy. They know they cant measure up as men so instead the just try to shoot us down.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Wow, you are delusional. You also know nothing about the canadian millitary, including how our f18 pilots tradionally school all the other pilots at the US based top gun school. Or forget the fact that most of the US recon vehicles are manufactured in Canada.

Thanks for playing, you clearly know nothing and are now on the ignore list.

Bwaaaaaahahahh!

Oh yes Tranny, the Canadien military is a force to be reckoned with, for sure.

 

[DRB]

Also, the attacks would stop if you, you know, STOP INVADING OTHER COUNTRIES.

So which invasion led to 9/11, the embassy bombings, the first WTC attack and the USS Cole?

 

[Changleen]

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I'm just saying in all likelyhood I bet he still does.

 

[Changleen]

So which invasion led to 9/11, the embassy bombings, the first WTC attack and the USS Cole?

Israeli invasion of Palestine, doofus.

 

[DRB]

Israeli invasion of Palestine, doofus.

And when did Osama give a sh!t about the Palestinians? Seriously.

 

[LordOpie]

Israeli invasion of Palestine, doofus.

and exactly how did Israel invade anyone when they didn't exist as a state?

Oh right, it was Britain who divided up the land as they saw fit when the WON the war against the Ottomans... to the victor goes the spoil.

oh right, Palestine didn't exist until the 1990s. So when did Israel invade this non-existant country?

 

[Changleen]

And when did Osama give a sh!t about the Palestinians? Seriously.

Since when did Bush give a **** about Iraqis?

 

[DRB]

I'm just saying in all likelyhood I bet he still does.

You'd also bet that no plane hit the Pentagon.

 

[Changleen]

and exactly how did Israel invade anyone when they didn't exist as a state?

Oh right, it was Britain who divided up the land as they saw fit when the WON the war against the Ottomans... to the victor goes the spoil.

oh right, Palestine didn't exist until the 1990s. So when did Israel invade this non-existant country?

But isn't Palestine in the Bible?

 

[Changleen]

You'd also bet that no plane hit the Pentagon.

No, Just not a big plane.

 

[BurlyShirley]

You'd also bet that no plane hit the Pentagon.

He thinks the Jews got together with the Republicans and the NSA and launched a cruise missile at it.

No, seriously.

 

[LordOpie]

But isn't Palestine in the Bible?

so when your anti-semitism is challenged, you make a joke?

 

[Changleen]

He thinks the Jews got together with the Republicans and the NSA and launched a cruise missile at it.

No, seriously.

It was just the NeoCons and the Pentagon.

 

[Changleen]

so when your anti-semitism is challenged, you make a joke?

Yup. Except I'm not anti-semitic. I'm anti-religious generally. Haven't you noticed? Man you really have attention span problems recently.

So seriously, The Middle East is naturally white right? A bunch of white folk who decided they're the decendants of some other people who also fought over a desert who turned up after WW2 were never going to get a great reception were they?

 

[LordOpie]

Yup. Except I'm not anti-semitic. I'm anti-religious generally. Haven't you noticed? Man you really have attention span problems recently.

So seriously, The Middle East is naturally white right? A bunch of white folk who decided they're the decendants of some other people who also fought over a desert who turned up after WW2 were never going to get a great reception were they?

so you admit that "palestinians" had no right to the land "they" lost in a war to UK and France?

sounds good.

 

[Changleen]

so you admit that "palestinians" had no right to the land "they" lost in a war to UK and France?

sounds good.

Yeah, that's *exactly* what I said.

Frankly I don't give a sh1t who had it first. It's a fvckin craphole piece of desert. I just wish you'd all stop fighting like fvcking 2 year olds, grow up and stop putting the lives and the welfare of the rest of the region in danger.

 

[LordOpie]

Frankly I don't give a sh1t who had it first.

so you agree that whomever lives wherever they currently live should continue living there?

Glad we agree.

 

[MikeD]

No, Just not a big plane.

I was about to do my own analysis of this, but on dialup, it's just not gonna happen...but I always wondered, since hearing your opinions, whether a 757's dimensions (specifically, the fuselage to engine distance) matched up with the 3 holes in the building.

Since I'm lazy, and on dial-up, I just googled it-here's one guy who thinks so. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

MD

 

[BurlyShirley]

Mike, I dont know why you even bother. Changleen is not going to even consider your evidence. He is set in his ways.

 

[MikeD]

Well, it's not my evidence; it's just N8-and-paste. But I do take an interest in not accepting things at face value...I'm glad people are willing to question them. I just don't think that popularly accepted truth is always wholly or mostly untrue...

Apparently I was remembering incorrectly about there being 3 holes...just two...and Popular Mechanics is saying the 2nd hole was caused by the nose gear. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=6&c=y

 

[Changleen]

I was about to do my own analysis of this, but on dialup, it's just not gonna happen...but I always wondered, since hearing your opinions, whether a 757's dimensions (specifically, the fuselage to engine distance) matched up with the 3 holes in the building.

Since I'm lazy, and on dial-up, I just googled it-here's one guy who thinks so. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

MD

That's very interesting. He makes a very good case that it is possible that it was a 757 that hit the Pentagon.

 

[Changleen]

Well, it's not my evidence; it's just N8-and-paste. But I do take an interest in not accepting things at face value...I'm glad people are willing to question them. I just don't think that popularly accepted truth is always wholly or mostly untrue...

Apparently I was remembering incorrectly about there being 3 holes...just two...and Popular Mechanics is saying the 2nd hole was caused by the nose gear. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=6&c=y

Popular Mechanics sucks ass. Their 'scientfic rebutals' of this stuff are essentially cut-n-pastes of government reports.

 

[Reactor]

exactly!

Chang, et. al who've defended Iran's rights really need to reconsider the simple fact that they're defending the criminally insane.

If I'm not mistaken, the PotUS cannot use a nuke on another country unless that country has nukes in the air heading for us. Yes, this admin has tried (and been unsuccessful) in getting unilateral authority to use nukes when they want, but that will likely never happen.

However, does Iran and countries like them have such safeguards? I seriously phucking doubt it. And that's why they shouldn't be allowed to have them.

Until Clinton, some officers of O-6 rank, in the US had Command Authority to launch a nuclear attack.

 

[MikeD]

Then again, if you play devil's advocate, he doesn't actually do a lot towards proving it was specifically flight 77 that hit it...but honestly, if you're going to hit the building with a plane, why make it hard on yourself? Why bother to somehow dispose of the real flight while engineering a whole other consipiracy to hit the Pentagon with another plane?

I personally have no doubt about it being flight 77 that hit the Pentagon, though. If one thinks the Mossad or the CIA was behind the hijacking, well, I guess that's another story entirely. But the only scenario I think it potentially plausible is that the response was deliberately delayed at the highest levels in order to allow the attacks to succeed...and I find that a marginal possibilty at most.

 

[LordOpie]

Until Clinton, some officers of O-6 rank, in the US had Command Authority to launch a nuclear attack.

umm, ok. How'd that get changed? Educate me.

Regardless, no one person on the planet should have the sole authority to detonate a weapon that powerful.

 

[Changleen]

Then again, if you play devil's advocate, he doesn't actually do a lot towards proving it was specifically flight 77 that hit it...but honestly, if you're going to hit the building with a plane, why make it hard on yourself? Why bother to somehow dispose of the real flight while engineering a whole other consipiracy to hit the Pentagon with another plane?

That's pretty much where my thinking is. There are still a lot of inconsistancies in the story though. 1st and foremost is why was it not intercepted?

 

[BurlyShirley]

That's pretty much where my thinking is. There are still a lot of inconsistancies in the story though. 1st and foremost is why was it not intercepted?

I just think its too much. They cant even keep a cheney hunting accident under wraps, and you think they can orchestrate something of this magnitude?

 

[MikeD]

That's pretty much where my thinking is. There are still a lot of inconsistancies in the story though. 1st and foremost is why was it not intercepted?

My god. I've done it again. I can bring any thread around to either a 9/11 conspiracy, an Atom Bomb discussion, or a Hitlerism.

Anyhow, I think it's wrong to take it as a priori that an airliner could have been intercepted...I'm not a strategic air defense guru, so I don't know enough about response times to give an accurate assessment, but I can imagine that the confusion of the situation, coupled with the target (potential difficulty in identifying it, unwillingness on all levels to shoot down an airliner), and the complete unorthodoxy of it all, makes it quite possible that the plane wasn't shot down simply because of lack of ability to do it.

I know there's evidence to the contrary, but I think a lot of it is focused through the lens of hindsight.

 

[Changleen]

I just think its too much. They cant even keep a cheney hunting accident under wraps, and you think they can orchestrate something of this magnitude?

Well, I think it is actually coming apart a bit now. There is a lot of testimony and a lot of evidence that directly contradicts the Government story. In reality the 'Plane hitting Pentagon' and 'Was Flight 87 shot down or not?' questions are gloss which hide more interesting and in a way more revealing issues about oversight and foreknowledge. And if it was an inside job, that had all the time they needed to plan and cover their tracks.

This is my basic version of events:

Government uncovers (or maybe even encourages) Al Q plan to attack the states. Rather than stopping it, they let it go and maybe embellish it to add to the dramatic flair.

 

[Changleen]

so you agree that whomever lives wherever they currently live should continue living there?

Glad we agree.

Yes, but that also means you have to stop killing each other, and that especially means YOU JEWS need to stop killing Palestinians a lot more than Palestinians need to stop killing Jews. Secondly you need to realise these people wouldn't hate you so damn much if you actually gave a **** about them as human beings and didn't actually go out of your way to make their lives harder. Like I said, y'all need to grow up.

 

[Changleen]

Damn this thread got derailed.

 

[LordOpie]

Yes, but that also means you have to stop killing each other, and that especially means YOU JEWS need to stop killing Palestinians a lot more than Palestinians need to stop killing Jews. Secondly you need to realise these people wouldn't hate you so damn much if you actually gave a **** about them as human beings and didn't actually go out of your way to make their lives harder. Like I said, y'all need to grow up.

YOU JEWS?

And you're not an anti-semite?

Huh.

I thought it was about the nation of Israel, not about religion? Somehow I, a jew, am responsible for the suffering of palestinians? Interesting.

Thanks for being clear on the subject.

 

[Changleen]

YOU JEWS?

And you're not an anti-semite?

Huh.

I thought it was about the nation of Israel, not about religion? Somehow I, a jew, am responsible for the suffering of palestinians? Interesting.

Thanks for being clear on the subject.

Suck it up, princess. You choose to argue the point, you chose to be a Jew. You know that the 'nation of Israel' is all about religion. There is no other reason for it to exist other than Jews. Don't be retarded.

Just so we're clear, you seem like quite a smart guy, you seem quite intelligent, and yet for some reason you chose to subscribe to a irrational belief system which is shared by a bunch of murderers. You chose to represent those beliefs and views on here, and I don't like them. I don't like murderers, and I especially don't like lying murderers with double standards based on irrational belief.

By refusing to accept the obvious truth that Israel as a whole is DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of thousands of Paletinians (who are largely equally retarded, but still human beings) you are, in a very small but real way culpable for the continuation of that behaviour. You are condoning that murder. That sucks ass.

 

[Changleen]

YOU JEWS?

And you're not an anti-semite?

Huh.

BTW that's the gayest thing I ever heard. So next time I refer to any grouping of people, I must therefore hate and despise them? Nice reasoning. For a two year old.