[mark77]

Hello, I am new here on the forum, and i have a question.

I want to buy a new bikes and now I doubt between the Kona Cowan 2008 & the Specialized P2 2008

Which of the 2 is now actual better?

I already read that the Specialized P2 2008 much better is then the Kona Stuff 2008

Now are the Kona Cowan 2008 and the Kona Stuff 2008 2 different bikes

So now I ask a comparison between the Kona Cowan 2008 & the Specialized p2 2008


Meanwhile thanks for the reactions

(Sorry for my bad English)



Specifications Kona Cowan 2008:

Frame sizes XS(13”), S(14”), M(16”), L(17”)
Frame tubing Kona Clump 7005 Aluminum
Rear Shock -
Fork Marzocchi Dirt Jumper 2 w/QR20 100mm
Headset FSA Integrated
Crankarms FSA Moto-X MegaExo
Chainrings Rockguard/36/24
B/B FSA MegaExo
Pedals Kona Jack****
Chain Shimano HG50
Freewheel Shimano Alivio (11-32, 8 Speed)
F/D Shimano Alivio
R/D Shimano Alivio
Shifters Shimano Alivio
Handlebar FSA Maximus Riser OS
Stem FSA GAP OS
Grips Kona Cowan Signature
Brakes Hayes Stroker Trail Hydraulic V6
Brake Levers Hayes Stroker Trail Hydraulic
Front Hub KK Disc 20mm
Rear Hub Shimano M525 Disc
Spokes Stainless 14g
Tires Maxxis High Roller 26 x 2.35
Rims Sun EQ 3.1SL
Saddle Kona DJ
Seatpost FSA Maximus DBL
Seat Clamp Kona QR
Color Matt Black & Matt White




Specifications Specialized P2 2008

FRAME A1 Premium Aluminium, double-butted ORE DT, forged HT/ISCG BB/chainstay yoke/horizontal dropouts, integrated chain tensioner and axle carrier, replaceable 98954020 alloy hanger, disc only
REAR SHOCK N/A
FORK Marzocchi DJ2, 100mm, 32mm alloy stanchions and Cr-Mo steerer, one piece magnesium lower, cold forged alloy crown, RV damping w/ reb. adj., air assist "stiff" coil spring w/ preload adj., disc only
HEADSET Tank FX, 1 1/8" threadless w/ hollow bolt
STEM Truvativ Hussefelt, forged alloy, 31.8mm, 0 degree rise
HANDLEBARS Specialized butted alloy 31.8mm, 640mm wide, 50mm rise, 8 degree back, 8 degree up sweep
GRIPS Specialized Enduro, dual density Kraton
FRONT BRAKE Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydraulic, 6" v-cut rotor
REAR BRAKE Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydraulic, 4" v-cut rotor
BRAKE LEVERS Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydraulic
FRONT DERAILLEUR N/A
REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X-5, short cage
SHIFT LEVERS SRAM X-5 trigger
CASSETTE SRAM PG-830, 8-speed, 11-28t
CHAIN KMC X8, 1/2" x 3/32" w/ reusable Missing Link
CRANKSET Fuse tubular heat treated Cr-Mo 3pc, 175mm
CHAINRINGS 34A w/ poly bash guard and Specialized ISCG chain guide
BOTTOM BRACKET Fuse Euro, alloy cups, 4x cartridge bearings, 19mm heat treated Cr-Mo 8 spline spindle
PEDALS Specialized alloy platform, 9/16"
RIMS Specialized/Alex HRD 26, double wall disc w/ eyelets
FRONT HUB Specialized P.Disc, CNC high flanges and disc mounts, 36h, nutted 3/8" axle
REAR HUB Specialized P.Disc, cassette, CNC high flanges and disc mounts, 36h, nutted 3/8" axle
SPOKES 1.8mm (15g) stainless
FRONT TYRE Specialized Rhythm Control, 26x2.3", 60TPI, aramid bead
REAR TYRE Specialized Compound Control, 26x2.2", 60TPI, aramid bead
TUBES Specialized schrader valve
SADDLE Specialized Fuse, 8mm rails, PVC bumpers front and rear
SEAT POST Specialized two bolt, no offset, micro adjust, 30.9mm
SEAT BINDER CNC'd alloy, single bolt
NOTES Chain stay protector, reflectors, owners manual


Greetings Mark

 

[mr.c]

look at the geometry on the cowan.... not very djish now look at the beautiful p.2, ahhhhhh its perfect. i hope i helped. p series are like tanks and it can handle anything YOU are going to throw at it, trust me, that cowan looks more like a all mountain hardtail not a djer, if your posting here you want the p2 otherwise go to the freeride section.

 

[JGill]

I'd go with the P2. I ride an 08 P1 and love it. You will hear and read about the Specialized having a low bottom bracket height, but although it does sit lower than most I have NEVER ran into any issues whatsoever. If you are wanting to jump and ride street I believe you would be happier with the Specialized.

 

[mr.c]

and i ride an 05 p3 frame so what more do you need both of us said p, so damnit do it already lol

 

[thebeeg]

p2 is the way forward so chuckable make it s/s and you cant go wrong. the wheels are a bit poo tho. just swap em out when the pack it in

 

[JGill]

Yeah the rims are pretty weak... just an upgrade away, down the road.

 

[mark77]

So as I the good understand must go I for the Cowan???

It is by the way for street and dirt

thnx for the reply's

 

[JGill]

Do NOT go with the Cowan

 

[nwd_26]

look at the geometry on the cowan.... not very djish now look at the beautiful p.2, ahhhhhh its perfect. i hope i helped. p series are like tanks and it can handle anything YOU are going to throw at it, trust me, that cowan looks more like a all mountain hardtail not a djer, if your posting here you want the p2 otherwise go to the freeride section.

Hardly. My 2005 p2 frame weighed around 5 pounds even, and my replacement warranty frame, a 2008 p3 (same as the p2 mentioned above) dropped 0.7 pounds off that...so go figure. It's a wickedly light frame, but I don't know that it's exactly a tank. I fear for my chainstays when I bail tailwhips. Upshot is, lifetime warranty!

I love the geometry of my p3 though, it spins better than my friend's dobermann (he confirmed this) and it's really light, so quite flickable.

 

[DirtBag]

The p series bikes are indeed heavy, but most of that is the build they offer as stock. Really heavy parts. The older steel frames were super heavy though. The Aluminum ones are not too bad.

For 08' though I like the changes they made.