[chuffer]

Does your forward foot hit the front tire ever?

For example, on the DK GL 24" a bar spin with level pedals is impossible because the front of the front tire will hit the forward *pedal* when spinning the bars. There is about a 2" overlap between pedal and tire. I notice that on most 20"s this is not the case. How about the molly or the FG?

 

[Mr Tiles]

mine did not on my old molly. I usually have toe-overlap issues on frames too. Never rode a fall guy so I can't comment on them but I think their geo's are similar in that respect.

 

[Leethal]

No sweat on the Molly, even for our Grom who has size 15 feet..

 

[chuffer]

Thanks guys. You understand that I am not talking about when riding (with the front tire pointed forward), correct? I am talking about when spinning the bars and the front tire is pointed backwards.

Here is a photo showing what I am talking about.

This toe/pedal overlap is one of the final conditions for me pulling the trigger on one of these two lovely frames. Assuming that there are any still available...

 

[Leethal]

There is video on the site of Joe doing barspins.

 

[swerve76]

I don't have any toe overlap on my molly.

 

[Stoked]

no probs on my fallguy with that. i have 170mm cranks and a 11 shoe. i still have room to x up

 

[BikeSATORI]

no probs on my Molly, and I'm running 175mm cranks and a 2.25 schwalbe up front...

might depend on fork too... a2c, and what is it called, "rake/trail"...
I know my wheel position is quite different between my '06 DJ2 and my rigid Rebate, but no toe buzz in either case....

 

[Bicyclist]

On my Fall-guy, I had no problems. I have size 13 feet and I ride very far forward on my pedals, so I was worried about this and bought 170mm cranks, but I would have been fine on 175mm cranks.

 

[grom-dom]

175s on my fall guy with 10.5 feet or so.

no probs whatsoever really, unless i move my foot forward to buzz an xup for a vid heh heh heh

 

[chuffer]

Wow. Thanks everyone for the feedback and the answers.

I have one further question. It is a difficult one and I want to be sure not to offend either Landon or Leethal. Landon and Leethal, please don't take this personally, but I have had a bad experience with a company that got nothing but rave reviews on ridemonkey. Recently it came out that other folks have also had less than perfect experiences with the same company. Thus, I am once bitten and twice shy and have to ask:

What is the straight dope on these two companies (Tonic and USB)? Good customer service? Timely delivery? No lies, excuses and BS?

My impression is that yes, they are straight shooters, but I have been burned once... If you don't wanna call either of these guys out in public, just shoot me a PM.

Again, apologies to both Landon and Leethal for questioning your credibilty, but....

 

[Boxxer]

Ive bought bikes from both Landon and Lee and they both get the nod. No problems what so ever.

Youll be pleased with either frame you choose.

 

[Bicyclist]

Chuffer, I know what you mean. I had a good experience buying from Landon. He was straight forward, and super helpful throughout my naiveté.

 

[v-digit]

Landon rules. Good business.

 

[LeRoy]

The Union crew got my frame over here to Korea in a timely, reliable and affordable manner... nothing but love here.

 

[ServeEm]

Lee was always straight up and got back to me on emails in a timely manner. When the frames came in he hit us up right away and I got my frame immediately after that.

 

[grom-dom]

they both do man, so nice guys

landon is awesome to deal with too.

hey tiles i have a shirt with the screaming hand on there.

the sc speed wheels one

 

[Mr Tiles]

screaming hand is the heat, takes me back to 1990!

I've known Lee aka Leethal for a long time. USB has the goods. I've alway heard good things about Landon too. You REALLY can't go wrong with either.

 

[max123]

Now everyone post up pics of ur molly's and fall guys

 

[Mr Tiles]

 

[Stoked]

old shot

 

[ServeEm]

 

[don]

I can say first hand that the USB guys are top notch. I got a first gen Molly Maguire and that thing was at my door within a few days after I sent the paypal. Sean, Lee, Scott and Joe were also very cool to me when I went out to Ray's a couple years ago.

I also have to add that I've been impressed w/ Landon's online presense. Not that you can tell everything from posts, but his responses to a lot of topics have been straight forward and informative and I'm typically in agreement with them. FWIW.

 

[Landon]

Thanks for the kind words. I send people to Union Street when we don't have frames. Although when we do have frames, I have no problem bad mouthing them for a sale.

 

[dexter]

Thanks for the kind words. I send people to Union Street when we don't have frames. Although when we do have frames, I have no problem bad mouthing them for a sale.

rad quote lando

 

[BikeSATORI]

pitchin' a wang-dang-doodle all night long....

it's a slightly older pic, but shows the stance. I've done a few updates over the past few months, but regardless, USB and Tonic are the epitamy of what an American bicycle company should be. Much respect.

 

[v-digit]

tiny bit different now - even more butter.

 

[Leethal]

tiny bit different now - even more butter.

That picture rules...

 

[grom-dom]

I send people to Union Street when we don't have frames. Although when we do have frames, I have no problem bad mouthing them for a sale.

hah, f*ck business ethics

heres a pic of mine, its recieved and still is recieving a ton of updates parts wise.

updated pics coming soon

 

[ServeEm]

purdy, man I love the curved seat stays on those fallguys.

Nice ass shot by the way.

 

[micahb]

Great picture leethal. So what is it like being an art student? Often lonely and misunderstood?

 

[Sean]

Great picture leethal. So what is it like being an art student? Often lonely and misunderstood?

micahb... Lee didn't post any pictures.

Thanks for all the props guys... It means a lot to us.

Landon... That was good stuff.

 

[micahb]

^^hence the sarcasm. my bad.

 

[Pornköng]

my new molly :

Cadre / Frame : Union Molly Brakeless Epoxy Satin black
Fourche / Fork : RST Space Lowered
Jeu de direction / Headset : Chris King
Potence / Stem : Shadow Conspiracy mix
Cintre / Bar : Aktarus cut
Poignée / Grips : Shadow Ol dirty
Embouts / Barend : Shadow purple
Tige de selle / Seatpost : Kink stump
Collier de selle / Stemclamp : We the people supreme
Selle / Seat : Mcneill fat capital
Pédalier / Crank : Primo Hollowbite with ti axle and shadow bottom bracket purple
Couronne / Sprocket : Animal 24t
Pédales / Pedals : Odsy Cielencki Mag Sealed
Roue avant / Front Wheel : NPJ hub 36t + Pimplite
Roue arrière / Rear wheel : KHE Reverse + Atomlab Pimplite
Pneus / Tires : NPJ
Divers / Stuff : Peg primo arr + shadow, tendeurs demolition

other pics here: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/?op=list&function=myphotos&photouserid=3040

 

[Mr Tiles]

I found some older pics of my old molly with some blinged out parts and a fresh paint job...

 

[grom-dom]

thats such a rad bike man, shouldnt've have ditched it hahaha

ah well

 

[Mr Tiles]

last one, raw w/ bling:

 

[Stoked]

that raw with the orange parts is the best! you must miss that bike.

 

[Cru Jones]

Is this thread like 24 inches of love part deux?

 

[GMDesigns]

I have tons of respect for Landon. He drives the company with professionalism, focus, and rationality.

Funny, when I read his replies I consider him ‘The voice of reason’.

He has been more than accommodating with me, even when I asked for an unfinished Fall Guy to modify last year.

GM
PS: If you don’t already, everyone should check out Tonic’s Blog: www.tonicfab.com/news.html



Here’s a pic of my FG: