[geargrrl]

must rant.
My son turned 18 a month ago. He's registered to vote, and will have to sign up for the selective service.

His high school ( he's a senior) requires not 1, not 2, but 3 signatures to recognize his majority. Let me get this straight - he can go to war and vote without a parent signature, but he needs signatures: a parent, guidance counselor and the principal's signature in order to have his majority recognized by the school district. WTF, like they don't have his birthday in the computer? Frickin' nanny state.

/rant over. I need to hear some RM asshattery so I can lighten up about this.

 

[Mr Tiles]

I had a big lunch today

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190303

 

[Secret Squirrel]

must rant.
My son turned 18 a month ago. He's registered to vote, and will have to sign up for the selective service.

His high school ( he's a senior) requires not 1, not 2, but 3 signatures to recognize his majority. Let me get this straight - he can go to war and vote without a parent signature, but he needs signatures: a parent, guidance counselor and the principal's signature in order to have his majority recognized by the school district. WTF, like they don't have his birthday in the computer? Frickin' nanny state.

/rant over. I need to hear some RM asshattery so I can lighten up about this.

What? I thought that that was something you kept hidden...at least until he declares his real name is Cal-El.

 

[SkaredShtles]

What? I thought that that was something you kept hidden...at least until he declares he came from Krypton...

Who is recognizing it, anyways?

Does anyone care if they don't recognize his majority?

WTF is this nonsense all about?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Ho-ho!! Super sniper quote....

I still have no idea what "recognizing a majority" is....

 

[geargrrl]

WTF this is about? Really?

not being able to drive himself to track meets. Bus or parent pickup ( with release) only.

I think I need a ride.

 

[LordOpie]

Ho-ho!! Super sniper quote....

I still have no idea what "recognizing a majority" is....

I think they're saying that white boys don't go to war, but you have to prove your white?

War is dumb.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Fock that - just tell him to drive himself.

 

[SkaredShtles]

I think it's dumber that he can't drink beer legally.

 

[Quo Fan]

Since the school system is so afraid of being sued, I think you should sue.

 

[Red Rabbit]

I needed two signatures on my form. Mother & Father. My dad laughed his ass off.

"they are telling on you for invoking your rights as an adult"

The response from the school was

"We feel it is important to inform parents that their student may be trying to pull the wool over their eyes"

what? Who cares. If a id is going to be truant it will be shown in his her grades.

 

[urbaindk]

I still don't know what a majority is in this case.

 

[LordOpie]

I still don't know what a majority is in this case.

I think from the context, it's means "adult".

 

[Secret Squirrel]

WTF this is about? Really?

not being able to drive himself to track meets. Bus or parent pickup ( with release) only.

I think I need a ride.

So, let me get this straight...

"Recognizing a majority" is a really round-a-bout way of saying that he doesn't have to take school transportation to a school sponsored event....because he's "of age"....

Right?

And you need three signatures for this? THat's retarded. I never had to do that.

Football game Friday night when I was a senior, drove to game, got suited up, played, tore ass home, showered, got back in car, went to party, got f*cked up. Simple.

 

[urbaindk]

So, let me get this straight...

"Recognizing a majority" is a really round-a-bout way of saying that he doesn't have to take school transportation to a school sponsored event....because he's "of age"....

Right?

And you need three signatures for this? THat's retarded. I never had to do that.

This kind of goes with the wussification thread then. How can kids learn to make good choices in life if they aren't ever given any choices to make?

 

[Reactor]

tell the school that they are violating your adult son's right to privacy and may be sued. As an adult they need his permission to discuss his school activities with you.

 

[H8R]

How can kids learn to make good choices in life if they aren't ever given any choices to make?

PS3 or XBOX 360.

That's enough right?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Tell him to go back to the school and say:

"I'll show you a majority."

Or:

"Recognize this majority." (Then pull out a ball point pen....see if he gets tased...)

 

[Secret Squirrel]

PS3 or XBOX 360.

That's enough right?

Was for me....and I made the right one.

 

[geargrrl]

I still don't know what a majority is in this case.

5. the state or time of being of full legal age: to attain one's majority.

opposite of being a minor

 

[geargrrl]

wussification is dam straight.
I had a chat with the "assistant principal of student services". He got rather flustered when I said, " so my kid is old enough to go off to war without my signature, but he needs three signatures to declare himself an adult at the school? That is rather incongruent, don't you think?'

He blamed it on the district. Asshats, we'll be done in June.

 

[Sherpa]

tell the school that they are violating your adult son's right to privacy and may be sued. As an adult they need his permission to discuss his school activities with you.

Wrong

 

[valve bouncer]

Is it something like this "I'm going over to youporn.com to recognise my majority"...? If it is, then mine is all recognised out.

 

[Reactor]

Wrong

Nope. Not. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen. fortunately for schools no one has been PO'ed enough to sue, because most teens turn 18 during the later portion of their senior year, or after the end of the senior year.

For one look at federal law 20USC 1232,

When a student attains eighteen years of age, "the permission or consent required of and the rights accorded to the parents of the student shall thereafter only be required of and accorded to the student." 20 U.S.C. § 1232g(d). Districts must inform students who have attained eighteen years of age of their FERPA rights. 20 U.S.C. § 1232g(e).

What makes it doubly funny is that in most states he could drop out of school, and become a bus driver for the very activities they now want a permission slip for.

I'd have him sign his permission slip as "legal guardian", inform the school you are no longer his legal guardian and your signature on a permission slip is not legally binding and that you'll sign it but only under the stipulation that you are not a legal guardian, and your signature isn't legally binding. In essence your child gained the sole right to enter into contracts when he turned 18, and a permission slip is a form of contract. Your signature is meaningless since you no longer have the right to enter into contracts on his behalf.

 

[Sherpa]

Nope. Not. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen. ortunately for schools no one has been PO'ed enough to sue, because most teens turn 18 during the later portion of their senior year, or after the end of the senior year.

For one look at federal law 20USC 1232,



What makes it doubly funny is that in most states he could drop out of school, and become a bus driver for the very activities they now want a permission slip for.

I'd have him sign his permission slip as "legal guardian", inform the school you are no longer his legal guardian and your signature on a permission slip is not legally binding and that you'll sign it but only under the stipulation that you are not a legal guardian, and your signature isn't legally binding. In essence your child gained the sole right to enter into contracts when he turned 18, and a permission slip is a form of contract. Your signature is meaningless since you no longer have the right to enter into contracts on his behalf.

We could sign our own permission slips and check ourselves out after we turned 18, but our parents could still got sent our grades and could pick up our transcripts.

Good thing I made good grades......

 

[geargrrl]

For one look at federal law 20USC 1232,


Quote:
When a student attains eighteen years of age, "the permission or consent required of and the rights accorded to the parents of the student shall thereafter only be required of and accorded to the student." 20 U.S.C. § 1232g(d). Districts must inform students who have attained eighteen years of age of their FERPA rights. 20 U.S.C. § 1232g(e).

thanks, that is what I am looking for.

 

[geargrrl]

Nope. Not. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen. ortunately for schools no one has been PO'ed enough to sue, because most teens turn 18 during the later portion of their senior year, or after the end of the senior year.

You are right about that. This is the last kid I have coming through the system. If I had a few more yet to go, you can bet I'd be writing the ACLU. I would say call but I did that already, and the message on the phone says to write.

 

[skinny mike]

this thread is really interesting. i turned 18 about halfway through senior year and yet i couldn't sign myself out and my parents had to sign one or two permission slips still.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

this thread is really interesting. i turned 18 about halfway through senior year and yet i couldn't sign myself out and my parents had to sign one or two permission slips still.

That's because you lived in the pretty little suburbia known as Andover.


That being said, I don't remember ever having to get anything signed to drive to and from sports events and school related events, etc. Used to just hop in someone's car and go.

 

[Reactor]

You are right about that. This is the last kid I have coming through the system. If I had a few more yet to go, you can bet I'd be writing the ACLU. I would say call but I did that already, and the message on the phone says to write.

Just remember I'm not a attorney. But it wasn't too hard to find what I was looking for on the web. Schools can and do make their own rules, which turn out to be illegal or unconstitutional fairly often. Usually a call or letter from a law dog shakes them up enough long enough to realize that they're doing something stupid.

My daughter was being bullied at school earlier this year, I called the principle's number got voice mail, read him the riot act with chapter and verse of the law he was violating by not addressing the problem and had him call me at work, at the POPO. That took care of the problem real quickly.

 

[eric strt6]

what Reactor said

At 18 he is an adult and can pretty much do what ever he wants, when he wants, with full legal consequences too.

As an Adult He can tell the district to stuff it [and he should]

 

[skinny mike]

We could sign our own permission slips and check ourselves out after we turned 18, but our parents could still got sent our grades and could pick up our transcripts.

Good thing I made good grades......

some new rule went into effect senior year where no one could sign themselves out unless they were 18. and before that you had to get your parents to sign a form saying that they are ok with you signing yourself out since you are 18.

 

[geargrrl]

That's because you lived in the pretty little suburbia known as Andover.


That being said, I don't remember ever having to get anything signed to drive to and from sports events and school related events, etc. Used to just hop in someone's car and go.

you know how it is, there's an incident and everything changes. IIRC, a carload of kids was going to a sports event as participants, and there was an accident where someone was killed. So now the district has this policy blah blah blah