MY dash is still in tact some how!!! I've seen a bunch of them caved in thoughand if you needed a extra cup holder....you could just punch a hole in the top of the dash.
that was the only drawback to that truck that my brother had.
MY dash is still in tact some how!!! I've seen a bunch of them caved in thoughand if you needed a extra cup holder....you could just punch a hole in the top of the dash.
that was the only drawback to that truck that my brother had.
When you look at the reports of the K&N (air and oil) filters, they are great for performance but provide very little protection.
Good to know. Hacktastic is looking at a used one today for me down near LA. Gonna start getting my jew-jitsu on soon and looking all over socal for the perfect one. I figure I'll only get an 09-10 F150 if I can find a screaming deal.also remember a cummins calls for an oil change every 5K instead of 3, that will help offset extra costs of oil.
Everyone I know that has or had a duramax has never had a single problem with it. The people I know that have fords and cummins have constant problems :~ My buddy's '03 Ram has had the tranny go out twice and my friend's powerstroke had some major problems with his motor.I said reliable?
that seems to go against all the facts about the Powerstroke and Cummins. granted random sh!t can happen, but when i think of reliability or durability, Duramax doesnt come to mindEveryone I know that has or had a duramax has never had a single problem with it. The people I know that have fords and cummins have constant problems :~ My buddy's '03 Ram has had the tranny go out twice and my friend's powerstroke had some major problems with his motor.
thats a very optimistic number.I plan on keeping it until 250,000-being a toyota, i think that it will last that long.
I will say that 04-08 powerstrokes did have some issues. However the 03 and earlier and the 09- 2010 are tight.that seems to go against all the facts about the Powerstroke and Cummins. granted random sh!t can happen, but when i think of reliability or durability, Duramax doesnt come to mind
i dont think thats too bad, i take care of it, give it all the maintenance, and i dont think that many tundras have even gotten to that mileage yet the 07s are only 4 years old at this point. The rest of their cars last about that long (on average) and diablo has put the hurt on the 06. 50k all mountain last i saw it, and i know trail crew doesn't exactly baby that truck. JD powers most reliable 5 years strong, gotta speak for something.thats a very optimistic number.
cant remember the last time i heard someone say they had over anywhere near that with the newer Tundras.
i thought the issues were resolved after the first year with the last-gen powerstrokeI will say that 04-08 powerstrokes did have some issues. However the 03 and earlier and the 09- 2010 are tight.
you dont see too many of the last gen models with that many miles either.....that could be because the frame fell aparti dont think thats too bad, i take care of it, give it all the maintenance, and i dont think that many tundras have even gotten to that mileage yet the 07s are only 4 years old at this point. The rest of their cars last about that long (on average)
That's what I've heard too. Cummins seems to be the benchmark in reliable diesels.that seems to go against all the facts about the Powerstroke and Cummins. granted random sh!t can happen, but when i think of reliability or durability, Duramax doesnt come to mind
Only thing that scares me about the Tundras is that stupid air pump thingy in the emissions that seems to go bad in a LOT of 07-08 tundras every 50k miles. And its a $2-4k fix or something crazy like that.i dont think thats too bad, i take care of it, give it all the maintenance, and i dont think that many tundras have even gotten to that mileage yet the 07s are only 4 years old at this point. The rest of their cars last about that long (on average) and diablo has put the hurt on the 06. 50k all mountain last i saw it, and i know trail crew doesn't exactly baby that truck. JD powers most reliable 5 years strong, gotta speak for something.
I was off on the years 03 - 07 6.0'shttp://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/0907dp_6_0l_ford_power_stroke_engine/index.htmli thought the issues were resolved after the first year with the last-gen powerstroke
ive heard, i have a 2010, and im hoping its fixed, any idea WHY it brakes, aftermarket if it breaks again?Only thing that scares me about the Tundras is that stupid air pump thingy in the emissions that seems to go bad in a LOT of 07-08 tundras every 50k miles. And its a $2-4k fix or something crazy like that.
their new in-house diesel is so much better than the outgoing engines....for one, you dont have to take the cab off to access the tight spaces!I was off on the years 03 - 07 6.0'shttp://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/0907dp_6_0l_ford_power_stroke_engine/index.html
Dura max motors are ****, Alison trannys are the ****. The motors that go in the dodges are AMAZING, the trannys are CRAP. Powerjokes, unless just a 7.3 are pieces of junk.Everyone I know that has or had a duramax has never had a single problem with it. The people I know that have fords and cummins have constant problems :~ My buddy's '03 Ram has had the tranny go out twice and my friend's powerstroke had some major problems with his motor.
I'll stick to a chevy.
Then again...right now I'm saying f**k trucks since I sold mine on Friday and am buying an older BMW.
Water gets in there and f's everything up. Supposedly if you're religious about it you can keep it from happening. But there's no after market fix right now. Ask hacktastic about it. He's got an 07 and been freaking out about it reading up on it.ive heard, i have a 2010, and im hoping its fixed, any idea WHY it brakes, aftermarket if it breaks again?
I suck at math, but say I change my oil in my Xterra every 3k (which I don't, as I use synthetic), it's still less than 4 quarts. My Powerstroke was 16 quarts every 5k. Looks to me like I still use a ton less oil on the Xterra. I know it's apples to oranges, but the cost of preventative maintenance on something that uses a $20 oil filter, 4 gallons of oil and uses a $100 air filter is pretty high.also remember a cummins calls for an oil change every 5K instead of 3, that will help offset extra costs of oil.
I can't say on new diesels, I go to fleet pride, 3 gallons and a quart, less than 10$ on the oil filter. It's like 50$ or so an oil change.I suck at math, but say I change my oil in my Xterra every 3k (which I don't, as I use synthetic), it's still less than 4 quarts. My Powerstroke was 16 quarts every 5k. Looks to me like I still use a ton less oil on the Xterra. I know it's apples to oranges, but the cost of preventative maintenance on something that uses a $20 oil filter, 4 gallons of oil and uses a $100 air filter is pretty high.
With a 7.3 International in a Ford everything was $100 at a time for repairs.
For the Powerstroke, that number went to $500 at a time.
New diesels cost a ton to work on.
Is it that much more to make the F150 more cost effective in the long run? What kind of problems are more expensive? Any specific examples? I'm just wondering if its like basic stuff I can do on my own if need be.New diesels cost a ton to work on.
I sold my 2000 with 185k, it was a great truck.I'm still driving my 2001 Silverado Z71 with 165,000 miles on it, the only thing I've replaced was the water & fuel pump. Best truck I've ever owned!!!!
I will not call you a liar, but I have a very hard time believing this. My brother has one with the 8.1 and the allison, it never gets much more than 12. But it is a raped ape, and tows fantastic.my pops has a GMC 2500HD with the vortec 8.1L. its got an exhaust, intake, and chip. it is the fastest truck i have ever driven by far. just imagine all the power of a duramax but without the turbo lag. it just goes the instant you stab the pedal. he regularly gets 16+ if you are just cruising on the freeway. .
I've done the math every which way, and as cool as I think diesel trucks are, you have to drive a TON of miles to justify the added cost of ownership.Is it that much more to make the F150 more cost effective in the long run? What kind of problems are more expensive? Any specific examples? I'm just wondering if its like basic stuff I can do on my own if need be.
Also just checked, cummins diesels are *only* 10qt of oil
You mean people shouldn't buy diesels or 1/2 ton+ trucks unless they actually need them for the work horse capacity?I've done the math every which way, and as cool as I think diesel trucks are, you have to drive a TON of miles to justify the added cost of ownership.
I still WANT a diesel, but I don't think its the most economic choice, UNLESS you are towing a ton of weight and driving a ton of miles. They are awesome trucks, and can pull down some good mileage numbers for their size.....
I still want a 7.3 ford.
want vs needYou mean people shouldn't buy diesels or 1/2 ton+ trucks unless they actually need them for the work horse capacity?
thats why the big three should consider bringing back their 1500/1.5ton series diesel projects.You mean people shouldn't buy diesels or 1/2 ton+ trucks unless they actually need them for the work horse capacity?
i know its hard to believe, but he drives like a granny most of the time (65-70 on the freeways). they have so much power you hardly ever have to step on the gas pedal anyway. chip, intake and exhaust brought mileage up a bit too, as well as stepping up to 285/75 tires to get the freeway rpms down a little. i know its not easy to believe, but if you keep it tuned up, tire pressure up, and all your fluids changed regularly it makes a big difference.I will not call you a liar, but I have a very hard time believing this. My brother has one with the 8.1 and the allison, it never gets much more than 12. But it is a raped ape, and tows fantastic.
I pay 2.89 for diesel (2.29 for the offroad diesel ) Gas around here is right at 3$ I'm not sure what the 5.9 common rail trucks get for milage. But I know you can EASILY get 30 out of them (there's a guy with an old 12 valve around here claiming he gets 33, and a guy with a 6.7 saying he gets 37) Say you get 19 out of an F150 like for claims you get.I've done the math every which way, and as cool as I think diesel trucks are, you have to drive a TON of miles to justify the added cost of ownership.
I still WANT a diesel, but I don't think its the most economic choice, UNLESS you are towing a ton of weight and driving a ton of miles. They are awesome trucks, and can pull down some good mileage numbers for their size.....
I still want a 7.3 ford.
He's lying......I get 10mpg. Period.
I drive a 1988 Econoline 1/2 ton conversion van. 5L V8.
Bah.
Its funny, one of the local guys has an E350 1 ton Ford van with the V10, gets like 15mpg. Things huge and still get's better mileage...
Keeping the RPM's below 1500 through the acceleration phase and on the freeway on my Tundra actually yields excellent mileage. Stepping on it with any aggressiveness drags it down fast.i know its hard to believe, but he drives like a granny most of the time (65-70 on the freeways). they have so much power you hardly ever have to step on the gas pedal anyway. chip, intake and exhaust brought mileage up a bit too, as well as stepping up to 285/75 tires to get the freeway rpms down a little. i know its not easy to believe, but if you keep it tuned up, tire pressure up, and all your fluids changed regularly it makes a big difference.
Oops, freeway.He's lying......
your van is also 22 years old w/ the old 5.0LI get 10mpg. Period.
I drive a 1988 Econoline 1/2 ton conversion van. 5L V8.
Bah.
Its funny, one of the local guys has an E350 1 ton Ford van with the V10, gets like 15mpg. Things huge and still get's better mileage...
no, he probably does get that muchHe's lying......
thats a horrible place to put that thing. and even worse that it puts the truck into limp mode when it goes bad,cally it. It's part of the emissions system at startup for about 30-45 seconds. It consists of these two tiny pumps that are located in front of the right front wheel behind the wheelwell paneling. They aren't sealed real well, and their location puts them right in the way of water drainage through the engine bay. When one goes bad, it throws a CEL code and puts the truck into limp mode (easy to fix on the go with a battery disconnect). The pumps cost $1200 each though.
Oh I know, just b!tchingyour van is also 22 years old w/ the old 5.0L
I think you've made the case for me. I guess I'll only get the F150 if I can find a really sick deal on it. The dodge is the only one I haven't sat in/driven, so we'll have to see how that goes first. Hopefully gonna settle that this weekend.I pay 2.89 for diesel (2.29 for the offroad diesel ) Gas around here is right at 3$ I'm not sure what the 5.9 common rail trucks get for milage. But I know you can EASILY get 30 out of them (there's a guy with an old 12 valve around here claiming he gets 33, and a guy with a 6.7 saying he gets 37) Say you get 19 out of an F150 like for claims you get.
That's 9 cents a mile, Vs like 15 cents a mile. That's in fuel costs. You also have to remember a cummins engine WILL go 500K without blinkin an eye. More like 7-800K with much trouble at all. If you're trying to keep the thing for 250K remember how many ****'s your gasser is going to take on you in that time. I bought my 12 valve with 200K and that motor runs like NEW. You also have to take into account the fact that diesels have a MUCH higher resale value, especially if you're in a 4wd cummins.
The ONLY costs that are higher are the initial costs (partially offset by resale value) and the cost of oil changes
Fuel costs are lower, and reliability is MUCH higher.......
the current gen of the F150 is great. the interior is leaps and bounds of their previous models and the truck is pretty damn big too.I think you've made the case for me. I guess I'll only get the F150 if I can find a really sick deal on it.
I don't now what kind of risk you are down to take, and how enforcement is in your area, but I run offroad diesel. It's died red and there is no road tax on it, so it's quite a bit cheeper. There is a 1000$ fine for the first offense so know that, I'm in the bay area so I don't have to worry so much about getting my tank dipped, but if you live in a farming area, enforcement is going to be much higher. It's like 20$ a fill cheeperI think you've made the case for me. I guess I'll only get the F150 if I can find a really sick deal on it. The dodge is the only one I haven't sat in/driven, so we'll have to see how that goes first. Hopefully gonna settle that this weekend.