http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/04/MNND193S7H.DTLThe harshest critique came from John Bolton, the former Bush administration U.N. ambassador, who said: "It comes perilously close to negotiating with terrorists."
You must spread some Reputation around before giving to stevew again.i bet he got his dick sucked on the way back.
Having Clinton go in begging and scraping was enough. Meaningless perhaps to a western mind but the Japanese get off on that kind of sh*t and I've seen little evidence that Koreans or Chinese are much different.Isn't it a little early? I haven't watched TV tonight but last I heard we hadn't given those kooks anything. Maybe lil Kim just digs him some Clinton?
That and he probably gave him a Hello Kitty pencil box.Having Clinton go in begging and scraping was enough. Meaningless perhaps to a western mind but the Japanese get off on that kind of sh*t and I've seen little evidence that Koreans or Chinese are much different.
Bush wouldn't, and didn't, do squat. WTF army would he have sent to North Korea? He committed practically everyone in the armed forces to war in the sandbox over a lie when we should have been in Afghanistan looking for Osama. That dip**** Bush couldn't even manage the war he started against a country with practically no effective army and your advocating war against the Nuclear armed Chinese over North Korea? For Christ sakes even MacArthur got run over by the Chinese and he knew war. We haven't given Lil Kim anything and you clearly don't even know what capitulate means.My final word on this matter is that no way that Bush would ever negotiate with terrorists. He would have visited NK as the head of the largest army ever assembled, probably after we fought them and China for several years.
Is capitulating to NK preferable?
I think sanjuro is fvcking with you and you have no idea what you are talking about.Bush wouldn't, and didn't, do squat. WTF army would he have sent to North Korea? He committed practically everyone in the armed forces to war in the sandbox over a lie when we should have been in Afghanistan looking for Osama. That dip**** Bush couldn't even manage the war he started against a country with practically no effective army and your advocating war against the Nuclear armed Chinese over North Korea? For Christ sakes even MacArthur got run over by the Chinese and he knew war. We haven't given Lil Kim anything and you clearly don't even know what capitulate means.
And if we went to war with China, I might have to switch sides...I think sanjuro is fvcking with you and you have no idea what you are talking about.
And if we went to war with China, I might have to switch sides...
Anyway, the worst part about this is the Clinton/Lisa Ling/Gore self-congratulatory parade we all have to suffer thru for the next few weeks...
Oh?I know it means we are cowards and have no honor.
You remember those snowmobile forum links I put up in the past right?The contrast between this thread and the parallel on on the moto forum I frequent is striking. Turns out motorcycle riders are hardCORE right wingnuts. Claims of "treason," "self-serving, overambitious parasites" and "deserve to serve their 12 years in a work-camp" abound.
Successful troll is successful.
I'm a liberal non-white San Franciscan living in a gay neighborhood whose entire family worked for city governments, including the welfare department
But in my defense, I live in a town where Sarah Palin is still talked about as if she was Jesus himself and where people make statements about the nation "socialist path" and NK way further out in right field than sanjuros in all seriousness.
That's racist. I think you can tell the difference between the actress Lucy Liu and the reporter Risa Ring.Lucy Liu's sister is FREE!
Honestly, who's going to notice a couple more gooks in a North Korean prison camp?Day 1: I noticed a lot of conservative voices saying how we should not have negotiated with NK, but the alternative several of them offered was to let these girls rot in prison.
Santa Claus and jesus would be railed if they were percieved to be democrats.Even if this was quid pro quo, which I believe it was not, every negotiation and concession with and for NK will be analyzed heavily, and if there is even a hint of tie-in, then Clinton and Obama will be railed.
Welcome to the order of the tin hat. It means that two U.S. citizens are out of a very nasty prison system.I know it means we are cowards and have no honor.
Santa Claus and jesus would be railed if they were percieved to be democrats.
You do have to wonder though just what kind of "American civilian" goes on a hiking holiday in Iraq??Debate on travel risk from NY times.