Who is lacking in professionalism? I'd say it's you airing your inside issue with Bryson.
Thanks, glad to be here. I don't doubt the integrity of the people who put such an indepth site together.
that's cool you read it all and have a little different view of it now. but i'm not sure you can safely say you know what the intent was for RM's decision to post that letter. mostly i feel he did it as a simple notice to anyone who might consider posting confidential information in the future and what he might have to deal with if they did it. but i also think he knows that many of us care about who it is we are handing our hard earned money to.
I thought this was extremely funny! I can't help but speculate that RM was sharing this email with us so we could enjoy humor value.
now that we know you work for bike mag, then you can't be Zap or RC, so how many dickhead editors/former editors does that leave? anybody got ideas?Originally posted by Soul Rider
This is kinda like complaining about a 200mm fork designed around a 3" tire being installed on a 98 DH frame. It just shouldn't be done.
My Demo 9 sure does sit nice with this nose bleeder on the frontend.
I'm gone, have fun. We will continue to make kickass product anyways. My heart and soul has been spilled...now I must drag my sorry ass home so I can be a dick to my neighbors, kids, and...where's Bryson's # I need to give hiom a pece of my mind too...what an asshole. For those who take things literally, I'm being sarcastic.
I work for Bikemag anyways.
don't do things behind closed doors that you wouldn't do in the open. if the email didn't specify it was confidential then RM had a right to post it, plus Bryson did overreact, nothing personal just the truth. This whole thing would dissappear if Bryson came on and admitted he was too harsh. I truly understand his POV but there are more professional ways to handle these things. threatening legal action, c'mon. He needs to find the leak in "his" company and seal it. there nuff said, no slamming no choosing sides, just the truth. all those pics did anyway was make people stoked and start saving money, I am sure at least a few people will now reconsider investing financially in a company that behaves as such. I personally will buy whatever product is the best value/performance at that time. I ride Fox and Manitou now but I have owned Marz before and probably will again.
Perhaps you missed this...
I had initially scanned through some of the posts and got the general impression that soul rider was being an elitist, but I had mixed up VPSDhiller and soul rider, your post prompted me to re-read more thoroughly all of the posts and I don't really detect nearly as much hostility as I thought I did. Plus I missed him posting his name and I kinda got the feeling he was pretending to work for Marz and then admitting he worked for BIKE. It seemed like he was "hiding" behind the anonymity of the internet, like we are all used to people doing. but obviously that's not the case. my bad truly.
Coincidence?
This thread comes up, about 10 links down.Originally posted by soulfly
go to google.com
type in marzocchi 2005
and see a wonder.
Since one site still has the tech drawings, I would say Bryson didn't get the memo out to all countries.Originally posted by soulfly
go to google.com
type in marzocchi 2005
and see a wonder.
Probably because he can't sue them.Originally posted by loco-gringo
Since one site still has the tech drawings, I would say Bryson didn't get the memo out to all countries.
that statement is so out to lunch i must assume you're kidding.
NO, I think that's more along the lines of "getting to the top" or "getting a piece of the pie".
if you'd actually read this thread, instead of skimming it, you'd know that it's not about the photos of the forks, it's the scans of the confidential oem specifications book that was NOT freely accessible.
Well to quote the first post of the thread:
All that confidential material information was not mentioned in the letter. Indeed the writer (who will remain nameless
) pointed out it was the pics of the forks and info available in the pictures taken at the show. People responded to the letter because it should have never gone out in the form it did.
Yeah I agree.
"Unofficial mouthpeice" let me point out this isn't some guy at the shipping docks. It is a VP. That removes any "unofficial" grace one might give whatishisname.
I guess, let me start by saying I am not teenager. But after reading some 14 pages of this thread I need to say something. I do ride a Zoke, we also have a Manitou and RS between my bikes and my wife's. As a consumer, its hard to read a post like this, not to mention the many from Bryson, and not feel like I would rather my money go someplace else.
) that its stupid not to buy a product just because one person (in this case a VP) comes off like an a$$. Well, I would say, not so. Respsect is big with me, as I'm sure it is with many out there....you and Bryson have gone to great lengths to really put this consumer off. Why would I want to put my $$ into your business? Why would I want to contribute to your salary or bonuses?
I appreciate that my not buying a Marz product will not end your company, but to cavalierly write me off is just bad business. I did have my eye on a Z1 SL for my AC....but yes, this thread, with the comments of Bryson and yourself, has gone a long way in influencing me away from your product. 
well, no, but if i remember correctly, back in 2000-2001 ish, give me one company that made a reliable, strong, plush freeride fork with good damping that is not required to have an expert mechanic with time to burn. the 1st generation psylo with short bushings, seal problems and horrible damping? the x-verts that had to be maintained every 3 weeks? the boxxer that costed 1200 bucks and still had blown seals? took other companies at least 4 years to catch up.
well as long as marzocchi keeps making a good fork i'll keep buying buying them. so far i haven't found a fork that works as well and is as reliable as marzocchi. so keep up the good work guys. and as for bryson, i'm not going to make a judgement about someone over some comment made on the internet.Originally posted by Soul Rider
Forgive my spelling but here goes. I am a rider just like you folks. I know Bryson. He wants nothing more than to get everyone stoked by riding thier bikes.
I work my ass off for Marzoochi customers. I try to be fair but hate to be taken advantange of, even if it's something stupid...and yes, casing a jump is stupid. That's not riding, it's trying to ride.
Honesty flys with us. It puts a smile on our faces.
So anyways, Bryson writes a letter about a legally marked confidential spec. book that should be moderated. None the less, these books are, more often than not, made before even a single piece has been fabricated. Nothing, natta. We don't want it out and appearently he was upset about it too.
Speaking for a few others at Marzoochi, we are 8 hard working technicians in the warranty tech departmant trying to service all of North America, we are less than 20 total. Out of those 8, 7 of us ride. We are the ones that fix it and ship it. It's not Bryson. We don't work with him, just for him. We work for him because we like bikes...oh, and Bomber girls
Bryson is a rider just like you folks. Showing the spec. was like showing the present early, it sucked. We present later hence creating a bit of drama to the mix of product specing. It also lets us ride a bit more while keeping the model years on the right years.
I still am having trouble understanding why companies are presenting product a full year in advance. Call it what you will. Poof it's an 06, 07...I hate to say it but it's going to become a color option within a few years(If this world lasts that long) If anybody just wanted to be able to ride his bike (other than me of course) it's Bryson. He doesn't mean to harm, but he sure can be stuburn sometimes.
From a worker at the company I can understand how he might have come across. He's agro, what can I say. I can't speek for him. But I know what he likes and doesn't like. If it's about bikes, he's in it for the right reasons.
I know that he would like nothing more than to be able to reword that letter....
Forgive me for being rash, or for even bringing it up, I am just a rider like you guys. I want my stuff to work without having to fix it too. I want to be able to climb effortlessly and descend without a care but I am just a hard working American trying to do what I love. It sure is complicated isn't it?
We are only trying to make forks that live behind thier name.
What's a guy supposed to do?
