Yeah, speaking of floating brakes arms... any reason why back in the day all the high pivot bikes had them but nowadays they don't?
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it can be that:
a) the modern geometry with longer wheelbase and lower CoG mitigate the issue of weight transfer during braking
b) the lizards wait for the right moment to introduce this feature
c) both of the above
Weight, complexity, and the reality that having your head angle slack out through rough chunder isn't necessarily a bad thing. When brake forces cause swingarm extension there's an abolute need for a linkage, but when it causes compression it's a little bit fuzzier. I rode both a brooklyn and a morewood and preferred the braking of the morewood as it suited going fast better.
2025 model upgrades
Ochain proved itself and made all that shit obselete.
You could *technically* fir another ochain to the rear hub and have your regular bike become a hoverbike!!!
Look where the pivots are on so called modern high pivot bikes and then look at where it is on one of the old ones you're thinking about
You keep repeating this mantra and it'll come true
I meant viable full suspension mountainbikes, not some dipshit's opium dream
I still can't believe people bought those pieces of shit
almost worth it, for the hilarity: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc/bop/d/port-moody-klein-mantra-rocky-mountain/7711943075.htmlYou keep repeating this mantra and it'll come true
just HOW bad can it be, i ponder
"hey gais, you what we need.....a collapsible top tube that makes your handlebars shoot towards your lap when you hit a g-out!"
b-b-but it haz Ge0metr0n approved saddle position!!!I meant viable full suspension mountainbikes, not some dipshit's opium dream
I still can't believe people bought those pieces of shit
that's so you slide forward and pinch a testicle on that pivot
it's your punishment for buying one
One of the designs that you get to look at and say “they didn’t get any of it right”.You keep repeating this mantra and it'll come true
Terrible geo, Terrible suspension action, and doesn’t even get a fancy Klein paint job.
Historically what Lusty’s touches goes up markedly. No shortage of nut huggers for that distro tho.
Haha that shouldve had a yellow URT thingo. Black was replacement when cracked. The yellow was a nice flake effect actually.
Suspension was dogshit for sure.
Yeah Supersports (old Transition dealer) had the same rep. And Dirtworks. And SCP. So yeah basically all the aussie importers that aren't factory.
Supersports now doing the Deviate bikes from Scotland. $6800 for the frame
B... B... B.. But they has ALL TEH IDLERS
that's double what they're currently selling 'em for here
Cool looking bike. And major props for getting rid of the cable tourism garbage.
Not sure how I feel about those rails being held in by those little bolts.
And have never really considered any bike with flexstays, I don't know and perhaps its an unwarranted critism, but they just look fragile...and flexy.
Buddy who owns/runs a shop ordered some of their bikes after building a road bike from scratch for a customer and was quite happy with it. Will have a look at them when they show up at his shop.
Regarding the flexstays I was in the same boat but a ride on a Tranny Spur turned out pretty okay. Not sure about bikes with more travel though.
My only concern with a flex stay is longevity. I tend to ride my frames for close to 10 years. Will these things stand up to that many years of aging and use?
Carbon and steel can be designed to have an infinite fatigue life. In some ways components designed to flex can be more durable than those designed to be stiff. How many people use air shocks because they think a spring will break?
Hey I broke one of these....first MTB bike, first MTB I broke, lasted 1 week. But it was a fun 1 week..then a sc bullit and a karpiel Armageddon...You keep repeating this mantra and it'll come true
This. Greetings from Mr. Wöhler.
I wouldn't be surprised if they actually lasted better than conventional pivot carbon bikes.
Steel, yes I get that as I am a licensed machinist in a past life so have some experience with spring steels.
It is the carbon and associated resins / thermoplastics / wundergoo that I am concerned about.
Granted my only experience is with plastic type flexi hinges that always wear out and carbon fibre canoes which is a bit different flex than a small hinge area.
Glad to hear that they are durable.
Composites are non isotropic, where as the shape and alloy determines a metal structures mechanical performance the strand direction of the carbon layup provide extra flexibility in tuning it's performance. Not saying all bikes get it right but it is certainly within the realm of easily possible.
And composite springs are a thing that has been around for a long time. Corvettes have been using them since the 1950s. One can pick them up as an upgrade to the cutting edge technology of the American muscle car.
Hyperco 10203 Chrysler Composite Leaf Spring, 175 Lb. Rate
This Hyperco Composite Leaf Spring is significantly lighter than steel, retain their design arch, and provide more side bite off the corner. The Hyperco CLS is truly a cost effective, high performance alternative to steel. It allows teams running leaf springs to be consistent night after night...
Remember when in motorcycle road racing they figured out that they had made frames too stiff, which was adversely affecting handling?
That bottom bracket seems awfully low though, especially if the bb drop number for mullet is correct...
People definitely said that about Klein and Cannondale early on!
Fair dinkum!