I've seen two fail within 3 months of new purchase
Shock preference? DPX2 vs. Float X? Other?
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It was 'better' but not by huge margins. When I installed the shock and went riding, I had to really think about how the suspension was working and what the improvements were.
I'm going to try a Kitsuma air on the Process X instead of the DPX2. Waiting for a day when I'm free and clear to go!
Regarding the original question, the DPX2 is a cool little shock providing you have the right volume spacer BUT when things get rough, I felt like it got a little overwhelmed if that makes sense.
Yeah the kitsuma has my interest as well...be curious to see how it goes...when you grab one let me know...I'm sure you will have it before I do...I am still aquiring parts to do the conversion like you did on your ccdb. That has to be one of the best looking shocks I've seen. 9.5 with CS!!!
Yeah they are using a small @$$ quad rings on bulk head Internally, 1/2 the thickness of outside quads...which makes no sense since it's seeing force from both sides...ifp and air chamber then pressure from cycling it...
All the other ones have larger quads and barely see them come in with cross contamination, once in a while and ifp seals give out periodically but the x2 float is mostly service do to cavitation not just annual service.
I wanted the tool anywase this just justified buying it, I can align with socket and preload for minimal drag for rebound assembly rod you are correct...but the tool looks cool and I'll write it off...lol
Have you fixed it with different seals?
Did you buy that tiny torque wrench too?
You think you have any air loss when charging the ifp with that adapter? I put a schrader valve on one.
No loss i take it to 155 if it's 150 on nitrogen. I've reconnected to see where I am at and it's almost always spot on (couple psi over)...it allows for the tiny blip I have a no loss constant pressure Schrader on the filler so it's under load while undoing it...
Torque tool: no I wanted too but I have a buddy who is a machinist he has a few they use on the aerospace stuff..he's got one for me.
Can't do different seals it's limited in it's cutaway and slider rings are tight...they made it half again shallower and narrower....being it has a large can and is designed for abuse I'd have thought that is the one place to keep a larger sealing surface...
All the dpx2 and other air set ups use a larger quad ring there and have a better interface with contact seal...
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@bullcrew and @Redwood Mulch Chucker Thanks guys! I have all 3 adapters.
I’ll try that o-ring.
I run higher ifp pressure too. They seem to last a tiny bit longer with a lil more. I put a performance piston in one to try it without vvc and it is nice. I do need to firm up the rebound a bit more to get more range on the adjuster though.
@bullcrew I like watching you create your business. Super cool!
I’ll try that o-ring.
I run higher ifp pressure too. They seem to last a tiny bit longer with a lil more. I put a performance piston in one to try it without vvc and it is nice. I do need to firm up the rebound a bit more to get more range on the adjuster though.
@bullcrew I like watching you create your business. Super cool!
@bullcrew
If you need bleeding adapters and don't mind ordering from Russia, this guy build a set that seems quite popular:
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If you need bleeding adapters and don't mind ordering from Russia, this guy build a set that seems quite popular:
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ordering from russia and paying in rubles?
Though the damper has been fine, my '21 float X2 doesn't like to hold air. Whatever bit of rubber in there is failing, appears to have a 6 month lifespan; about to send it back for the 3rd warranty (assuming they honor) service in 18 mos...
I've got all the bleed adapters lol...@bullcrew
If you need bleeding adapters and don't mind ordering from Russia, this guy build a set that seems quite popular:
Никита on Instagram: "Two sets of adapters for @redasrrds and @bernd_holzer_bikesports . I am can mark a new country on the map, the first parcel to Lithuania. #BMT #BrosMakeTool #tools #vacuumbleding #FoxShocks #RockShox #Manitou #EXTracingshox #formulanero #MadeinRussia #НижнийНовгород"
172 likes, 7 comments - sordelyshka_zapilOctober 6, 2021 on : "Two sets of adapters for @redasrrds and @bernd_holzer_bikesports . I am can mark a new country on the map, the first parcel to Lithuania..."
So your procedure is something like filling the res and body, doing the glove thing, then installing the ifp, then overfilling the body and inserting the sealhead/shaft assembly, then setting ifp depth?
If not using the vaccum yes...
There's a couple more steps to assure no air behind adjusters in head but that's because I don't trust that air won't find a spot to hide.
They come to me with cavitation, the ones I've seen havsmt been serviced before And not old in a few of the cases..I have another one coming Monday same thing. His is 3 months old..
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210x60 float x possible?
I have not had a fs bike since the sb66 2011?
Going to get a DB air, I think.
Going to get a DB air, I think.
Clue that ohlins offroad twin tube doesn't operate that way and fox moved away from that setup to q setup closer to the ohlins in 21
Cue?
Cue clue
Fact is,
Poppet style hs is stupid IMO
Particularly on a twin tube.
As is a main piston shimmed in such a manner that it operates primarily as a solid piston
These are characteristics of a <2021 x2 and a ccdb
The 2022 is x2 is a shit sandwich for its air in damper but the layout is preferable..
And similar to an ohlins, aside from the vvc, and the vvc mechanism forcing an alternate location for the lsr
Please stop saying cavitation.
These shocks aren't cavitating, the oil is getting aerated. Air migrates from the air spring into the damper and aerates the oil.
As for replacing the -022 PU90 o-ring that's on the outside of the bearing assembly (damper sealhead), I'd suggest 85 or 90 durometer Viton/FKM as a substitute.
These shocks aren't cavitating, the oil is getting aerated. Air migrates from the air spring into the damper and aerates the oil.
As for replacing the -022 PU90 o-ring that's on the outside of the bearing assembly (damper sealhead), I'd suggest 85 or 90 durometer Viton/FKM as a substitute.
Nope, it looks like max is 210x55.
I opened a 2021 X2 yesterday that was insane!
After letting IFP pressure out, IFP was jammed up against the cap so hard I couldn't get the cap to budge a mm.
Cracked the bleed screw and it was like an oil rig gusher! There had to be well over 100 psi of air in the damper, covered me and the bench in oil......
Goes along with the theory of air coming in from the can as the rider was running over 180 psi.
The last one that did this same thing had much less pressure inside and the rider was only running 110 psi.....
Does fox make terrible rear shocks on purpose?
I got a new bike with a float DPS... and jesus, this thing is bad! It packs up over everything, yet rebound is set faster than Id like. Compression spikes over literally everything. Gravel will make it spike. Gravel. Does fox have a guy who analyzes shocks and says stuff like, "that shim stack...
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afaik only ohlins makes a ttx22 210x60, but then my rise will be even heavier. 155mm travel though…
What about the coil version?
I wouldn’t worry about it much. What are you thinking of getting?
Thinking of trying the DVO.
@buckoW yes coil is fine I have only serviced a couple that we're over do and were solid...no cross contamination (had no CAVITATION going on)
Sorry had too...
Others may have seen some issues with coil but I don't see that very often...did get one in it was on a trunion mount and shaft flex took out the front seal...but that was advised against before he did it.
Sorry had too...
Others may have seen some issues with coil but I don't see that very often...did get one in it was on a trunion mount and shaft flex took out the front seal...but that was advised against before he did it.
I had an x2 performance series coil leak on my friends Commencial supreme about a month after he got it.
I didn't have the seal but I did have the poly oring used in the float x2.
Dropped it in the night before his big week long bike trip and away he went. Lasted untill he replaced the shock with an ext
Yeah I just haven't seen alot of the coils come across the bench...I know several riding them no issues. Me I have a woody on one and ccdb on other 2...no issues at all...
Oh, based on everything in this thread, all shocks are shit… so, let’s roll the dice!
been happy with my 11-6; but i got it in big sale when jenson had nomad-specific ones they were blowing out a few years back (right before push updated to their current configuration).
