Wow, so what your saying is that just because BMXers could do it before street mtbs were even invented, we shouldn't even have fun in a similar fashion? Its a played out argument, deal with it.Sandwich said:
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and it's a played out form of riding.
Just as you're entitled to your opinion, so am I.
I think it's boring to watch some guy go over thirty dirt jumps in a row. I thought it was boring eight years ago when I watched a nine-year old BMX video. I like to watch DH and even some freeride videos. I don't care if you ride like that, I know I do. If you want to videotape it though, I can see BMXers doing much larger tricks, and nobody is calling it "new" or "fresh".
why don't you ask what chuck norris thinks?
Just as you're entitled to your opinion, so am I.
I think it's boring to watch some guy go over thirty dirt jumps in a row. I thought it was boring eight years ago when I watched a nine-year old BMX video. I like to watch DH and even some freeride videos. I don't care if you ride like that, I know I do. If you want to videotape it though, I can see BMXers doing much larger tricks, and nobody is calling it "new" or "fresh".
why don't you ask what chuck norris thinks?
I know chuck personally... or at least pretend to chat with him on the internet...He would say that anything T-Pirate says is correct and also what I say. Street riding is the ****, and yes that video is really cool. People did pull that crap on bmx bikes awhile back but it is totally different on a mountain bike.Sandwich said:
Exactly, larger wheels and bigger bikes are harder to pull the same tricks on. The same way that riding DH trails on a BMX would be really hard.Curiouscaptian01 said:
You think the truth is that riding street on an MTB is playedthe truth is MTB's are evolving to swallow all other types of riding because of their incredible versatility. How many years before hardly anybody rides BMX? It's already on a serious decline now that you can buy a $500 hardtail that's pretty strong from almost every major brand. Not to mention that BMX has practically become a ghetto fashion show with all the bandana's hangin' out the back pocket and greasy nappy hair, tight ass pants etc (heroin-chic).
I love BMX and the top pros are some of the most, talented and dedicated of any sportyou might want to consider getting over knocking MTB street it's not going anywhere except up...
agreed. its an old argument and the state of the sport today is not where it was a year ago.
i really dont understand the arguement to begin with??? why can't the riding just be appreciated for the difficulty it entails and the fact that it only continues to progress....
that f'ing noise on the other hand doesn't even begin to be deserved to be called music.
the 'rapification' of all things media these days is beyond me, give me the old stuff where the actually PLAY instruments and SING, that used to be called music.
that f'ing noise on the other hand doesn't even begin to be deserved to be called music.
the 'rapification' of all things media these days is beyond me, give me the old stuff where the actually PLAY instruments and SING, that used to be called music.
Yessss!!! Bring back John Denver!!!!!!ridetoofast said:
One more thread killed with attitude.
I wouldn't listen to that song if it weren't on the video, but it also doesn't bother me. After watching it a few times I don't mind it. Crazy nice editing and stuff man, you have a good eye.
KILL WHITEYkidwoo said:
naw, naw, man. We're talkin' 'bout Whitey DeLuca or old manager...manhattanprjkt83 said:
He disappeared a couple years ago.
What we tryin' to say is...
we got some hats now!
Queer eye for the BMX guy??? Sounds like watching guys ride has become more of a ghetto red carpet critique.punkassean said:
Werd,
I mean I understand that to them riding is more than just riding, it is an extension of themselves. I know that riding style is important so I guess some guys just take that one step further with getting highly stylized wardrobes. I just think the current style is a bit over the top, with this kind of 1 part James Dean, 1 part Sid Vicious, 1 part Iggy Pop, and 1 part frail effeminate pansy boy thing goin' on...
I mean I understand that to them riding is more than just riding, it is an extension of themselves. I know that riding style is important so I guess some guys just take that one step further with getting highly stylized wardrobes. I just think the current style is a bit over the top, with this kind of 1 part James Dean, 1 part Sid Vicious, 1 part Iggy Pop, and 1 part frail effeminate pansy boy thing goin' on...
Hu??? I was zinnging you, "Sounds like watching guys ride has become more of a ghetto red carpet critique." Stop looking at the clothes and synthetic attitude and watch the riding. Sure the year round halloween costume is distracting but really I'm suprised any male cares. Let me guess you ride a bike that's all black? MTBrs are just as cliche' we just have more money to spend on TLD logos and tires with knobs shaped like our favorite corporate logo.
ahaaa, I'm with Sean. You can only watch a parade of -just- so many 6'1" 140lb kids with long black hair, super-dark jeans, a '70's tshirt and a trucker hat with their gloves in their back pocket before it becomes pretty comical. I swear sometimes I think I'm seeing octuple on some street rides.Kornphlake said:
It's just as bad as the dudes in TLD helmets/jerseys/gloves/shorts, Dainese full suits riding Intenses with Intense tires walking the hard rock gardens though....
Nope my bikes have factory colors, I was the one dissing the M-tires anyway
Dude, I watch the riding but I can't help but be somewhat disturbed by the "fashion show"
color me zinged...
Dude, I watch the riding but I can't help but be somewhat disturbed by the "fashion show"
color me zinged...
that looks wicked good! ill b lookin for that one
So when was the last time you saw street MTB (or any MTB) covered on any TV other than stupid crash reels on REAL TV? Im no BMXpert but think that statement that BMX is going down is pretty weak. But if thats what you want to believe than go ahead.punkassean said:
Watching the teaser, i thought... oh boy... another street/dj vid. Not my cup of tea. the riders in it are for sure talented. Its just not something i'd buy.
Long live freewalking.
or the revised version which is more accurate than the decline of bmxDßR said:
You can only watch a parade of -just- so many 5'8" 205lb adults with goatees, shaved heads, tattoos and "i'm hardcore because i ride a hardtail with 24" wheels and 3.0 tires" t-shirts plunking off stairs before it becomes pretty comical. I swear sometimes I think I'm seeing octuple on some street mtb rides.
It's just as bad as the dudes in switchblade helmets/chest protectors/ugly erseys/shorts, Cheap brand body armor riding "insert overbuilt huck bike here" with kujo tires going around the good berms to hit wooden stunts instead though....
haha!! I disagree tho (although I don't think bmx is declining at all) -- those gnar dudes of which you speak aren't doing it as a fashion statement. I think bmx is going the way of skating -- when trend-sniffing kids who don't do it or know jacksh*t about it are styling themselves after it, that's cheesy.©2001 said:
I FULLY blame Ashton Kuchner.
0% of the people i know who skateboard or ride bmx do not do it as a fashion statement.
That's pretty much what I was trying to say.DßR said:
At least in SC I see waaay more young kids riding hardtails w/o front brakes etc than I see BMXers.
I also personally know more than a few guys who have all but given up on 20" after getting a nice 26" "freestyle" bike.
BMX is here to stay, but MTB is only getting bigger and all encompassing. And I for one like that
that means in 5 years "the only people riding mtn bikes will be trend-sniffing kids." get ready. i hope less people ride mtn bikes...w/ the rate of whack style increasing and respect for good style decreasing, it's gonna get even more gross than it is now.
hah, ive wondered the same thing. A lot of old school bmx guys talk about how mtb is now like bmx was back in the day. I hope to god it doesnt turn into what bmx is now (for the most part)©2001 said:
to have read the critiques, I would have thought I was about to listen to Morrissey or Frank Zappa. I forgot how anal you dweebs are.
From my own perspective...I call that progression. Why? Pop in a bike video from 2 years ago and the final "climax" clip would have been 1 of those tricks. The riders are progressing...young kids coming up are more open minded to trying new tricks and combos, events are more amd more creative. The tricks visually aren't more progressive than anything in BMX, but the style, tricks and culture are still developing. BMX is clearly defined and they're just now starting to tap into their MAX potential of tricks.
Flip whips, 900's, etc...are just now being mastered by the MOST talented riders. And look how many years they've been working it. MTB styling is still in it's infancy. Anyone who's watched the Crankwerks clips has seen the riders scratch the surface of tons more progressive tricks, stunts, lines.....it's just a beginning.
I don't find the tricks to be more stunning than BMX vids, no argument there. But I will watch the vid to see and appreciate what these guys are trying and learning.
Side note: T-Pirate and CuriousCaptian are my little man-toys!
From my own perspective...I call that progression. Why? Pop in a bike video from 2 years ago and the final "climax" clip would have been 1 of those tricks. The riders are progressing...young kids coming up are more open minded to trying new tricks and combos, events are more amd more creative. The tricks visually aren't more progressive than anything in BMX, but the style, tricks and culture are still developing. BMX is clearly defined and they're just now starting to tap into their MAX potential of tricks.
Flip whips, 900's, etc...are just now being mastered by the MOST talented riders. And look how many years they've been working it. MTB styling is still in it's infancy. Anyone who's watched the Crankwerks clips has seen the riders scratch the surface of tons more progressive tricks, stunts, lines.....it's just a beginning.
I don't find the tricks to be more stunning than BMX vids, no argument there. But I will watch the vid to see and appreciate what these guys are trying and learning.
Side note: T-Pirate and CuriousCaptian are my little man-toys!
alright to the 4 of you who thought the music was bad don't get your panties in a knot. just wait for the next teaser. The New Deal isn't going to be all rap, it won't be all metal, it really won't be all of anything. Mountain biking is diverse and that will show through in the music. Any of you watch ski movies or snowboard movies? the music choice in films like those demonstrates more of what I'm trying to do. I pick music that fits what your watching, regardless of if your into it or not it will fit.
The song in the teaser is on the more extreme end of rap, and you can bet it won't be used in the movie....but thats not to say there won't be any. I will make the promise that this film is going to have the BEST soundtrack of any mtb film yet, and that it will encompass all tastes of music. Is that a bold claim? yes. but i know my ****. so don't worry about it.
Everyone else, thanks for the positive feedback. you'll like what you see when its finished.
The song in the teaser is on the more extreme end of rap, and you can bet it won't be used in the movie....but thats not to say there won't be any. I will make the promise that this film is going to have the BEST soundtrack of any mtb film yet, and that it will encompass all tastes of music. Is that a bold claim? yes. but i know my ****. so don't worry about it.
Everyone else, thanks for the positive feedback. you'll like what you see when its finished.
lineskifreek said:
Sounds good man.
Whats this about me being your man toy butch? I don't know what I'm hearing...but I think I like it.
hahahahaT-Pirate said:
Creep me out, you do.T-Pirate said:
yea ryan i love that all the clips ive seen of yours use totally different music, and it all works. I wasnt a fan of the song in the teaser at first either, but after getting used to it i love it.
I would much rather watch a video like this than New World Disorder. After going to BC to ride this summer and scoping out some of the local scene there. I came to the realization that the disorder series is mainly filmed in Whistler. I would much rather see real riders throwing down in everyday type places. Who wants to see the same line over and over.