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Singlespeed Geometry

paulbug

Chimp
Oct 6, 2004
50
0
California
So here's my question:
Singlespeeds have their own geometry. Right now I just have a Giant Iguana MTB that's converted--it has a long travel Rock Shox '00 Judy, but in the future I'd like to get a SS frame.
What makes a SS frame SS? They're longer, I know, and they tend to have sloping top tubes with long seatposts. Could someone run down the thinking and physics behind the designs? I like to know that kind of crap.
Also, how will my cheapo tall MTB frame act as compared to a SS that's actually right for my body?
I'm 6'0 and have long legs
Thanks
Paul
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
7,155
1
austin
i never realized SSs had their own geometry. maybe that's just 'cause my Inbred was the first bike i ever really did actual riding on.
 

BikeGeek

BrewMonkey
Jul 2, 2001
4,573
273
Hershey, PA
the Inbred said:
i never realized SSs had their own geometry.
Me either. The only thing different I ever noticed on SS frames was the track fork end or eccentric BB. :confused:

paulbug
I'm not sure I'd want longer frame if that's what defines an SS geometry. Longer frames corner slower and don't climb as well.

You're over-thinking this. SS is simplicity. How does your Iguana feel as an SS?

I think a lot of the SS frames are nice, but I think there is a lot of hype involved too.
 

bikebabe

Monkey
Jul 31, 2002
133
0
Maryland
For me climbing is better on a longer frame (Cannondale, Gary Fisher) than shorter frames, but I prefer that geometry on all my bikes. On a longer frame, I find my center of gravity is better and I get better traction when powering up a climb. With shorter top tube frames my center is too close to the bars and the back wheel breaks loose easier when standing. Descending is a different story...I feel more comfortable with a short top tube for fast, stable descents.

I don't think there is a specific geometry for SS----whatever you like on a geared bike will probably work out fine for a SS. The thing that will make the biggest difference on a basic converted bike is a true SS rear hub or the perfect gearing/chain length so you don't have to run a tensioner. The pedaling is more efficient and surprisingly easier. Part of the charm of a SS is that you can take any old bike and transform it...it's not about having the lightest bike with bling-bling parts...it's about the simplicity and joy of just riding....though of course a light bike with nice parts isn't bad either :)
 

peter6061

Turbo Monkey
Nov 19, 2001
1,575
0
Kenmore, WA
The only geometry difference I would think would be between single speed 'XC bikes' and single speed 'jumping' bikes, but those lines get crossed all the time too.
 

paulbug

Chimp
Oct 6, 2004
50
0
California
BikeGeek said:
How does your Iguana feel as an SS?
The Iguana, I think, may be too tall for me by about a half an inch...maybe an inch.
I'll have to ride it more to see.
I'll keep my eye out for a cheap, slightly shorter bike I can compare it to, but for now, I haven't ridden it enough to know how it feels.
I've liked the simplicity, though, on the 4 rides I've been on.
Paul
 
I don't think SS bikes are "different", BUT I know I think the long-top-tube geometry I already like is very well suited for SS riding. Mine's a Manitou HT, but it's now called "Fisher Genesis"geometry...long top tube, short chainstays. PERFECT for climbing out of the saddle, as many SS riders do quite a bit.