OH yeah
What's so hard to understand about a singlepivot that allows you to adjust the geometry without affecting the suspension rate? There's no crazy axle path manipulation, the pivot is in almost the exact same position as the old Empire CAD renderings. In fact, the linkage is very similar to the "reverse moto-link" the Empire was to have, except pivoting on the downtube instead of the seat tube...
Bring on April 1st!
I did on post #27 - in fact i said whats been repeated numerous times lol.
Its not that the I don't understand how you can have adjustable geometry with a single pivot and not affecting suspension.
Hey, how exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does the sun set? How exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does, it just does.
You got to win the world champs?
f@gs like you shoot them out yer arse
As has already been stated in this thread and others, Dave is no longer directly involved in frame design. He is focusing primarily on suspension kinematics.
Chill out brah, if you read into that statement for one thing, you'd understand it's a quote from the movie joe dirt, and two, it's referring to the statement "Durr it looks like the swingarm will hit the frame at 3" of travel, therefore it won't work". I made the responce because statements like that are just like duhhh statements. For anyone to think that Evil bikes would seriously put up a rendering of a frame that would have interference issues of that severity is ludicrous. Tire rubbing on seat post... maybe - swingarm grinding and piercing into down tube at 33% travel, nope.
I can assure you the only rainbows that come out of my ass are brown and tend to clog the pooping receptacle they land in. Sorry but I wouldn't suggest chaising my rainbows unless you have a plunger.f@gs like you shoot them out yer arse
I never said it wouldn't work, but that it wouldn't work the way people think based on a single image of a rough rendering. There's more to this design than we can see, obviously.
I can't see where you're pulling that from. The swingarm rotates up at the back which means down at the front, pulling the dogbone link which is made from two separate pieces down on either side of the downtube. Personally I'd be more inclined to say it looks like the shock reservoir is going to get smashed into the seat tube, but I'd say they might have thought of that one. The actual angle of rotation of a swingarm is relatively low, the distance the dogbone link would actually be pulled over the suspension's travel would be quite short.
They shouldn't do, plenty of other bikes do it too! The proto Sundays that were around in 04 did it, the Lawwill Rotecs do it, the IF Tungsten Electrode does it, the Session 88 does it and so forth...
I don't see where you're pulling that from
Ok, not arguing that point at all.
Obviously not. We probably have to wait for April 1st again
mmmm the posi-trac .... isn't that GM's system? I might be wrong, but plymouth ain't GM, however they did use a slip differential, that is what GM called Posi-trac.
So I guess we wait what Vanderham shows up with in Utah ?
That would be kind of a rough test
it's the E-way brah!
The same way the rest of them are so into a bike that doesn't even exist yet, let alone never been ridden.
I meant the excitement was wearing off a bit, sorry, failed attempt at humor I guess ;-)
