[S.K.C.]

...what it would look like if I did the ENTIRE bike.

Well, this guy in Japan had his Sunday chromed. The whole thing...

Bling:

Blang:

edit: Pretty sweet, if you ask me - Looks like he needs some help matching the rims.

:biggrin:

 

[gemini2k]

do you mean entire bike as in, every metal part in addition to the frame? That would be jizz-tastic.

 

[S.K.C.]

No, no - when I said "the entire thing" I was referring to the main-frame and rear triangle, as depicted in the above pictures.

 

[jvnixon]

"That's HOT"

 

[DHS]

Looks like he needs some help on the build.

:biggrin:

?????

other then a short cage rear der and shorter chain. his build is awesome.

 

[S.K.C.]

?????

other then a short cage rear der and shorter chain. his build is awesome.

O.K. - that was an inaccurate statement. What I meant was that he went through all the trouble to chrome the frame, but didn't match tha rims. :biggrin: If you are gonna bling it out like that you may as well go all the way, you know?

You are correct - the build IS quality.

 

[OGDMFG]

should have don the links too.

 

[4xBoy]

Chrome

Add MORE weight to a heavy frame.

 

[sbabuser]

Hmm, air shock and saint cranks - wondering what kinda terrain he rides. And how much weight the chrome plating added.
It does look good though.

 

[Boxxer]

Chrome

Add MORE weight to a heavy frame.

Looks polished and maybe cleared but not chromed.... If anything, weight was taken away.

 

[General Lee]

unlike the Honda team, it looks like he doesn't have a guy to keep it polished after every run. . . . be a lot cooler if he did.

 

[4xBoy]

Looks polished and maybe cleared but not chromed.... If anything, weight was taken away.

I agree it looks polished, which, yes it would be lighter.

The idea of chrome bugs me.

 

[Storchi]

looks sick!

 

[WestCoastHucker]

kind of reminds me of my bike...

 

[sriracha]

kind of reminds me of my bike...

except your bike pwns his bike in the bling dept.

 

[godzilla]

.....

 

[AlmostHeaven]

Add MORE weight to a heavy frame.

it's gotta be polished. chroming a bike would be... shall i say... ridiculous?

has he been riding that bike with an air shock for like 1 minute DH runs? correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the reason that air shocks haven't been fully incorporated into DH bikes is because of the intense heat that ruins the valves,etc. during a full run at speed?

 

[sriracha]

.....

OMG!!! what is hasselhoff doing to that poor dog?!?

 

[godzilla]

OMG!!! what is hasselhoff doing to that poor dog?!?

I'm not quite sure - I googled "fat guy polishing a harley" (just cause I've never understood how a person finds the time to clean such a beast - like a polished bike) for images, and this is what popped up. Terrifying.

edit: Maybe the dog's name is Harley?

 

[no skid marks]

has he been riding that bike with an air shock for like 1 minute DH runs? correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the reason that air shocks haven't been fully incorporated into DH bikes is because of the intense heat that ruins the valves,etc. during a full run at speed?

Probablly just a little Jap fella,With the low leverage ratio a Sundays probably one of the best bike to run an air shock on and get away with it. I didn't see a resi on the shock,you'd definatlly want as much oil as possible.

 

[S.K.C.]

...

Apparently I've angered the gods by suggesting that the frame was chromed... It LOOKS chromed to me, but then again I also think that Paris Hilton looks like hell, sooooo.... :biggrin:

If it is polished, the individual responsible did an amazing job because they got into all the nooks and crannies that Virgil wasn't able to reach on my bike. (you have to take a REALLY close look at the rear triangle on my bike to see it) So that's why I thought it was chromed.

Crazy? Sure. But I've seen stranger things on the internet....

Like a reclining semi-nude Hasselhoff.

... that was awful BTW.

 

[Udi]

has he been riding that bike with an air shock for like 1 minute DH runs?

The image you posted describes your understanding of the topic pretty accurately.

ALL shocks experience high levels of heat, damping is the simple process of converting kinetic energy into heat energy. All valving is designed to work under high levels of heat without performance being affected, and shock oils have high viscosity indexes to ensure the viscosity sees minimal change over the large temperature range they see.

Compressing air in the air spring does create heat, but this wouldn't be significantly higher than the temperature of the oil in the damper anyway - which FYI is sealed away in the damping section of the shock. When air is compressed it expands, so the only negative effect you might get is the spring rate increasing slightly over a long run - but because negative pressure auto-bleeds to match positive pressure, it's not really going to be a huge deal unless you are a real heavy guy and/or hitting runs over 4-5min regularly.

Something a lot of people also don't realise is that you can tune their rate between linear and progressive pretty well by changing oil or grease volume in the main air chamber, or using larger/smaller air tubes (eg dhx air / rp3 can be mixed and matched).

As noskidmarks mentioned, the sunday's probably the best frame to run an air shock in due to it's super low leverage ratio - allowing for lower air pressures for a given rider weight. The gemini dh (~7" travel version with 3" shock) is another great option, but anything with a reasonably low ratio is a good candidate (so - not a v10). PS, noskidmarks - the shock does have a resovoir, it's just hidden behind the upright on the sundays.

So with a bit of thought into application (rider weight, leverage ratios) and tuning - air shocks in dh are a pretty realistic option, with many racers happily running them.

 

[bent^biker]

...When air is compressed it expands...

 

[Udi]

Oops - should have explained better. When you compress air its temperature increases, and when you heat air, it expands.