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JewBagel

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Apr 22, 2008
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oregon
I'm going to school for civil engineering and many schools with established engineering programs also have a Formula or Baja SAE programs. I joined the formula SAE program this year and it has been nothing but fun, more work than a job, but much more opportunities for fun as well, it also happens to be a good way to get rid of a girl friend.

This year we competed in california at FSAE West, FSG in Hockenheim Germany, and FSA in Melk Austria. West went well, but there we had a major problem when a bolt sheared and then the other suspension mount riped out of the monocoque during the first day fo dynamic events. We spent all day and night repairing it finally finishing by 9am the next morning then we went on to take 2nd place. We lost by 9 points to RIT after factoring in the 10 point penalty from the late SEF report on the carbon monocoque 3 months before competition.

I was "lucky" in that I could not find a job this summer so I was able to attend the Germany and Austria competitions. We just finished those up a week ago so I finally got a chance to do some traveling. Hockenheim was rather disappointing since we did not finish endurance because our muffler fell off due to not being able to find steel rivits, the aluminum ones melted. We were 2nd place in autocross beating many established teams and scaring Stuttgart by coming within .120 seconds of stuttgarts 53.103 time. We were one of two teams to not finish endurance due to non-catastrophic failures. 45/78 teams did not finish which is common, most are engine or driveline failures. We calculated the points afterward and we would have been 2nd.

Austria ended a lot better, it was a first year competition and was very small with only 24 teams. Stuttgart, Delft, and Helsinki did not show because of the Italian competition right now, but many of the other top teams were there. This time we found steel rivits and although we did not do as well as we should have in skid pad and acceleration, we still owned the competition winning by over 170 points with 918/1000. That was the first competition OSU Formula has ever won and it felt great to finally have our work and knowledge validated.

The school paid for all transportation and lodging while we were competiting and helped out with the plane ticket which is the only way any of us were able to come. Finally with competition over 3 of my teammates and I rented a car and headed off to do some mountain biking. We rented a ford focus and chose the 18$ upgrade to a navigation system hoping to get an upgrade and we ended up with a mercedes c class diesel wagon. Then we drove a good 600km on the autobahn, toping out at 230km/h, to Winterberg, Germany. It's like a very small whistler, and I mean small. They have a nice slope style park, 4 trails, a 4x course, and some other small stuff. The price was nice, 160€ for two days of riding with a freeride bike(nicolai Ion ST), helmet, and shin guards. Their DH trail was loads of fun even though it was maybe a 3 minute run.

Camping here is expensive at 7€/night per person so we dirtbagged it out in the woods...in the Merc. While on the chairlift we noticed a large pool in town which turned out to be free after 6pm so we were still able to shower and smell pretty for the ladies, which were few and far between.











Afterwards we went to visit the Neuschwanstein Castle (aka the Disneyland castle) in bavaria, sleeping in someone's field this time. BTW, it is illegal to camp in Germany so you better be awake early.

The view we woke up to




Then it was off to where ever the GPS told us there was a club. We ended up in some small town with a lot of night life, surrounded by the alps. Very few roads are gated which ment lots of driving around on the ski resorts and in the Alps. Fortunately none of us speak german so we couldn't read any of the signs telling us to stay out. We ended up driving pretty much to the top of the Alps in Germany. We picked out a perfect spot to camp, then an hour later the man who manages the mountains showed up and told us we couldn't stay. He was very nice about it and went on his way leaving us to pack up at our own pace.

Yes you are allowed to drink in a moving vehicle in Germany, just not the driver...there was lots of beer consumed on the autobahn.


Where have you taken your mercedes rental car?


Then having no place to stay we went to the clubs and one of the guys managed to find two girls who let us stay at their place. Luck was on our side as it ended up downpouring that night and none of us have a tent or bivy sack, sleeping in a bed for the first time in 3 weeks was a good feeling. Now I've got three more days to party it up in Germany and Zurich, Switzerland before heading back to Oregon. To top it off, a Whistler trip is scheduled for some time in the next two weeks.
 
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JewBagel

Monkey
Apr 22, 2008
229
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oregon
got any pics of your car? i'm planning to join the formula team at my school in the fall. should be really fun
What school? Most likely the car we built, and will do again, is very different from the on your school will do. Most cars, especially in the states, are 4 cylinder, steel tube frame, 13" wheels, and 200-240 Kilograms.

Quick overview
147 kilograms (323lbs) with all fluids and a full tank (5 liters)
Single cylinder Honda 450 52hp at the crank
Carbon front monocoque/steel rear subframe
10" wheels
hope moto brake attached to the diff instead of a brake on each wheel
traction control, launch control, auto shifting for acceleration runs, and tons of data acquisition









I definitely recommend joining, it's a lot of work and takes up a lot of time but is totally worth it. Employers, especially places hiring ME students, really like to see experience like this on resumes.
 

JewBagel

Monkey
Apr 22, 2008
229
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oregon
lucky bastard ! sounds like you had a great trip .
It was a great trip. About 6pm the day before we had to return the rental car we came across another bike park, at the foot of the Alps, with 5x more elevation and 60km from where we were staying instead of 600km. Next year we're definitely going there and from what the people I met at Winterberg tell me there are good places around Munchen (Munich) as well.
 

ocelot

Monkey
Mar 8, 2009
395
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Canadastan
What school? Most likely the car we built, and will do again, is very different from the on your school will do. Most cars, especially in the states, are 4 cylinder, steel tube frame, 13" wheels, and 200-240 Kilograms.

Concordia University. i know that the cars from different school will obviously be different from each other, how else are you going to have a competition? lol

that beaver on the nose makes it look pretty awesome haha, almost like a fighter plane
 

JewBagel

Monkey
Apr 22, 2008
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oregon
Concordia University. i know that the cars from different school will obviously be different from each other, how else are you going to have a competition? lol

that beaver on the nose makes it look pretty awesome haha, almost like a fighter plane
They are all different, but in the scope of things ours is a completely different concept. Most are large, lots of power 80-90 hp, and aero dynamic wings or undertrays. Ours is very light(lightest at the european comps), low power, fuel efficient, no aero, and small. In most racing series the cars are very similar per regulations, FSAE allows a lot of different concepts to be competitive. In Germany there were light weight single cyl cars, two cylinder cars, heavy 4 cyl cars, supercharged single cylinder cars, supercharged two cylinder cars, etc... We would have placed second in Germany if our muffler had not fallen off while the first place team, Stuttgart, had a completely different concept with a high powered 200something kilogram car. It just proves how there isn't a single best concept vehicle for the competition.

The fighter jet was kinda the idea behind that, we also ripped off TU Graz and UAS Graz with the attacking beaver as they are both sponsored by redbull and have the bulls on the front of their cars.

Check out both of these forums
http://fstotal.com/
http://www.fsae.com/

especially this thread, things I love about FSAE
http://fsae.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/125607348/m/909105651
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
18,207
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just sittin' here drinkin' scotch
Concordia University. i know that the cars from different school will obviously be different from each other, how else are you going to have a competition? lol

that beaver on the nose makes it look pretty awesome haha, almost like a fighter plane
Concordia??? Really??

I hate to break it to you, but that's where I went...

I did Baja all 4 yaers, and got hauled back to work on the Intrepid the after graduation.

Doing SAE was the smartest thing I ever did in school.
 

JustMtnB44

Monkey
Sep 13, 2006
841
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Pittsburgh, PA
Nice write up. The trip sounds like it was a lot of fun. Congrats on your Formula SAE success. I did Baja every year I was in school, some years as captain and one as school SAE president, and it was probably the best experience I had in college.
 

ocelot

Monkey
Mar 8, 2009
395
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Canadastan
Concordia??? Really??

I hate to break it to you, but that's where I went...

I did Baja all 4 yaers, and got hauled back to work on the Intrepid the after graduation.

Doing SAE was the smartest thing I ever did in school.


what year did you graduate? im not quite sure what youre referring to as the Intrepid, is it the dodge?

hopefully, sae would help balance out my shietty first year performance and make my stay at the uni much more enjoyable
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
18,207
105
just sittin' here drinkin' scotch
what year did you graduate? im not quite sure what youre referring to as the Intrepid, is it the dodge?

hopefully, sae would help balance out my shietty first year performance and make my stay at the uni much more enjoyable
1994

And the intrepid...the burgundy Dodge. Not sure if it's still there. It was the Futurecar HEV. Had the VW TDI engine in it.
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
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I'm jealous! We had a Baja team as school, but the software engineers spent most of their time in dark dorm rooms writing code. I had a friend who was on the team and he had a blast.