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Now I've got it in my head! Ito+tan lines+Ryan = Ito
Hecky
Now I've got it in my head! Ito+tan lines+Ryan = Ito
Hecky
The Firestone DH race is on!
- Thread starter Zark
- Start date
Hey fellas, any beta on this course would be much appreciated because I'm thinking about making it my first DH race ever. Pics of jumps and/or hairy sections in particular would be appreciated so I can decide how many collarbones I must be willing to invest in this decision. On a scale of 1 being groomed fire road and 10 being rock-strewn ridegline from hell, how would you rate the difficulty of the course? Should I wait for an easier event, or just sack up and ride it?
It'll be my first DH race and I'm doing it on an enduro sx.
I'll be rocking the AC2 with Super T. Might even take off the third chainring. . .
I don't think I can take off to get up there during this week, things are busy at work and I have some OT to do. But...we should walk the course first thing on Sunday. Flag the turns, mow the spot and get Curt grinding it out with the Rototiller. He can leave the beers with mehecktone said:Ok, I can get away anytime during the week. If we are going to do it early on Sunday, we need to get the diggers started and keep the "Manegerial trail design meeting" to as few chieftens as possible.
I'll upload the photos at lunch today and do some crude drawings of what I was thinking of 
NC
I got the flier with course work dates on it and it is posted at the shop and I am going to post it on out website as well. If you bring me some fliers next weekend I can drop them off at the other bike shops as well.hecktone said:
moguls would be cool.
Last year's course was awesome this one looks like it's going to even better.
The coolest thing about last year's course I thought was that there was really only two sections you had to brake, the fastest guys may not have braked at all. who knows. But because of that you could take practice runs all day and just cruise the course with out using a whole lot of effort. This year it will be a nice change from the brake to accelerate repetitions at a Fontana course.
A few other things that made last year's course rock.
The speed, I remember one section where you could pedal full blast down a steep shoot than at the bottom when you couldn't pedal any faster, you could get a pump in and accelerate to close to 40 mph.
The jumps were awesome, there was good mix of doubles, drops and hips, they all flowed really well, you didn't have to slow down for any of them Very good job.
The burms were built superb, again almost no braking going into them, that's a very good thing... slowing down sucks.
There really wasn't anything about last year's course I didn't like. If you guys could come up with a course again this year with zero brake sections that would be focking rad... like a bobsled course with jumps.
Anyways, here a few other ideas.
Drops going into burms.
A whoop section would be cool. Not like a team big bear whoop section, more like bmx track whoops, big and wide that with speed you can double up all the way through.
A turn going downhill made out of railroad tie stairs.
A burmed switch back section. (It looks like you guys allread have that covered.)
A wall ride where you have the option of riding the wall to jump over some rocks or cutting a turn or some kind of benefit.
A steep railroad tie stair section.
Lots of random rollers to pump off of.
A huge finish line jump!
Anyways if you think any of those ideas were good use them, If they suck dont. I'm just throwing stuff out there. Either way Im sure the course this year will be awesome again.
The coolest thing about last year's course I thought was that there was really only two sections you had to brake, the fastest guys may not have braked at all. who knows. But because of that you could take practice runs all day and just cruise the course with out using a whole lot of effort. This year it will be a nice change from the brake to accelerate repetitions at a Fontana course.
A few other things that made last year's course rock.
The speed, I remember one section where you could pedal full blast down a steep shoot than at the bottom when you couldn't pedal any faster, you could get a pump in and accelerate to close to 40 mph.
The jumps were awesome, there was good mix of doubles, drops and hips, they all flowed really well, you didn't have to slow down for any of them Very good job.
The burms were built superb, again almost no braking going into them, that's a very good thing... slowing down sucks.
There really wasn't anything about last year's course I didn't like. If you guys could come up with a course again this year with zero brake sections that would be focking rad... like a bobsled course with jumps.
Anyways, here a few other ideas.
Drops going into burms.
A whoop section would be cool. Not like a team big bear whoop section, more like bmx track whoops, big and wide that with speed you can double up all the way through.
A turn going downhill made out of railroad tie stairs.
A burmed switch back section. (It looks like you guys allread have that covered.)
A wall ride where you have the option of riding the wall to jump over some rocks or cutting a turn or some kind of benefit.
A steep railroad tie stair section.
Lots of random rollers to pump off of.
A huge finish line jump!
Anyways if you think any of those ideas were good use them, If they suck dont. I'm just throwing stuff out there. Either way Im sure the course this year will be awesome again.
I think we need more elements to seperate the fast riders from the slow riders. Last year the differences in times were miniscule. I vote for making the course more difficult. That would include more flat corners, more rythms with bigger jumps, some generally sketchier stuff, etc... So I think we need more places to make people want to brake and more places for people to crash.
We are working on making it longer and tougher. Flat corners and more tricky spots are going to be incorporated. We can't go crazy with jumps due to the fact that we can't make a seperate expert sections and everyone needs to be able to get down the hill, not to say that there won't be more and trickier jumpsbikenweed said:
The times will most likely still be really close though. The course is really short and we don't have a lot of natural features to utilize.
I like the idea of whoops and rollers and I'll try to get them incorporated. Keep the ideas coming and more iportantly come out and help if you can! We need people out there to make it happen. The next dig day is this coming Sunday, 3/27.
Unfortunately, I'm still in a cast as I broke my foot a couple weeks ago, so I can't really do too much physical labour. More ideas include: jumps into and out of berms, rollers before and after jumps, spraying a section down with a hose to make it muddy, adding nails or marbles, etc...
90 deg turns into a drop.
uphill landings
lonnnnnnnng pedalling sections -on flat
uphill landings
lonnnnnnnng pedalling sections -on flat
Zark did u get thr GU I left you on your truck? Me and matty road out the on sunday on are roady bikes. Did u see the life flight chopper? It landed right down the road from you guys.
Tony,Gambo said:
Yeah, I did. & I saw the medivac chopper too.
Do you know what happened?
One word for Easter digging: Rototillers.... They kick ass, they do the work of 15 people and don't even ask for beer or practice runs
There is a new section of course now called the dog leg. Mike will post some pics later. This will add 10-15 seconds onto the run hopefully.
Noah
Gambo!Gambo said:
You better bring the fam to this years race! Free kids races, food, music, beer ... I spent a few minutes talking to Bush at the Track World Saturday night .... man include me on those reunion rides! Hope it's all well, and lets see you at Firestone!
Hecky
This is a test ... Here is a pic from the DH trail work yesterday. I hope this works as I'm not really a computer savey guy, unless it's an easy attachment ...
Well that didn't work.
ok so my computer is jacked i think ... so i emailed the photos to noah and aked him to post them
Hey Noah, when is the next dig day. I'll try to get my SLO riding buddies to come down and work.
The next build days are this Saturday and Sunday. If coming from SLO we'll be meeting at the top of the DH course at 9 AM.
If coming from SB we'll be meeting at the Java Station at 8 AM.
There is a complete list of Firestone Trail Work Days as well as directions on the event web page, www.ridesb.com/firestone.htm.
Thanks, and hppe to see you out there!
Mike
If coming from SB we'll be meeting at the Java Station at 8 AM.
There is a complete list of Firestone Trail Work Days as well as directions on the event web page, www.ridesb.com/firestone.htm.
Thanks, and hppe to see you out there!
Mike
The work schedule is more, like located here:
http://www.ridesb.com/firestone_trailschedule.htm
http://www.ridesb.com/firestone_trailschedule.htm
OK, lets finish this trail off this weekend! Its close, but we need a crew out there to polish it off. So you wanna help? get out there!
The lower section needs some love. the berm needs attention as does the last few jumps and the rollers after the tabletop (new feature)
The lower section needs some love. the berm needs attention as does the last few jumps and the rollers after the tabletop (new feature)
I'll come out and help...see you out there.
OK everyone, please bring your own flat hed shovels, rakes and such as I have a limited ammount of SBMTV tools this weekend.
Also bring your lunch, water, and sunscreen!
Thanks, :nuts:
Hecky
Also bring your lunch, water, and sunscreen!
Thanks, :nuts:
Hecky
Is the time still 9am at the top of the course?
Yes it is still 9 AM.
Hey Noah, how'd it turn out? I tried to make it each time, but couldn't find a ride :mumble: and I have two midterms on tuesday 
but I should be out next weekend to race 
see you there.
but I should be out next weekend to race see you there.The course is looking and riding pretty nice. We had great turnout this weekend and fixed up some things that were lacking.sleepinggiant said:Hey Noah, how'd it turn out? I tried to make it each time, but couldn't find a ride :mumble: and I have two midterms on tuesday
Practice begins officially on Friday
Things to hope for:
1, its not windy next week
2, its not 100 degrees next week
3, cows are scared of Shimano tape and little red flags :mumble:
Sweet!!! If I don't want to pay the $5 shuttle fee, how bad is the ride to the top?
There is a built trail to the top of the DH. Steep, but bearable. Don't try climbing the DH course, too steep and you'll probably get run over.sleepinggiant said:
don't wanna pay $5? You cheap-ass college kids!
EVERYONE: DRIVE SLOW AS HELL ON THE DIRT ROAD! 10 mph max, leave the rally driving at home. The Firestone's don't want dirt clouds wafting over their house ok?!
