Quantcast
  1. The Ridemonkey Secret Santa has begun

    Come exchange gifts with other monkeys! From beer, to light-up bike nuts, to custom machined holiday decorations, there's something for everyone. To participate, make sure you send your email by Tuesday, November 28th.
    Click here for details and to learn how to participate.
    Dismiss Notice

What's the lightest/strongest/best Enduro Wheelset out there guys?

Discussion in 'Cross Country, All Mountain & Trail Riding' started by NorCalHub, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. NorCalHub

    NorCalHub Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 6
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    19
    Location:
    Roseville
    20150406_152248.jpg
     
    #1 -   Apr 8, 2015

    Please register to disable this ad.

  2. 4130biker

    4130biker PM me about Tantrum Cycles!

    Rep/Likes:
    53 / 411
    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    3,887
    Location:
    Fvck missing linksville
    In tough situations like the one you're in, I turn to this trusty adage:
    Light, strong, and rootbeer: pick two.
     
    #2 -   Apr 8, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2015
  3. kickstand

    kickstand Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    44 / 415
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Messages:
    3,541
    Location:
    Fenton, MI
    It says KOM, it must be the king of the mountain.
     
    #3 -   Apr 8, 2015
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Nick

    Nick My name is Nick

    Rep/Likes:
    224 / 1,693
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2001
    Messages:
    11,588
    Location:
    behind you, don't wait up.
    is that a Lefty hub?
     
    #4 -   Apr 8, 2015
    • Like Like x 1
  5. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

    Rep/Likes:
    193 / 1,147
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    43,351
    Location:
    In a van.... down by the river
    I could destroy that wheel in...two miles.
     
    #5 -   Apr 8, 2015
  6. OGRipper

    OGRipper Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 73
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Messages:
    9,636
    Location:
    NORCAL is the hizzle
    The lightest wheelset is definitely a front wheel with the guts removed.
     
    #6 -   Apr 8, 2015
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Useful Useful x 1
  7. 4130biker

    4130biker PM me about Tantrum Cycles!

    Rep/Likes:
    53 / 411
    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    3,887
    Location:
    Fvck missing linksville
    And the best wheel has an axle, I am pretty sure. Ahhh, choices.
     
    #7 -   Apr 8, 2015
  8. maddog17

    maddog17 Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    16 / 62
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    2,667
    Location:
    Methuen, Mass. U.S.A.
    go to weight weenies and ask them
     
  9. NorCalHub

    NorCalHub Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 6
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    19
    Location:
    Roseville
    Nick, you win! It is a lefty hub, good eye. I'm riding the wheels today, should put them through their paces as I will be pre riding the TDS Enduro ranch today to break in my new 2015 gear. The rear wheel laced up at exactly 2lbs. Project 321 with the I-9 torch XD Driver....I'm pretty psyched and nervous at the same time. I cant imagine these wheels lasting but here goes!
     
  10. Nick

    Nick My name is Nick

    Rep/Likes:
    224 / 1,693
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2001
    Messages:
    11,588
    Location:
    behind you, don't wait up.
    What happened to the "best/strongest" part?
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Horns Horns x 1
  11. Westy

    Westy the teste

    Rep/Likes:
    385 / 2,353
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2002
    Messages:
    34,092
    Location:
    Sleazattle
    Can it fit a 3" gazzalodi?

    Does it have an integrated fanny pack?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. NorCalHub

    NorCalHub Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 6
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    19
    Location:
    Roseville
    Well, I definitely put the wheels through their paces and so far I am very impressed. The rear wheel was 2 lbs exactly and I dropped a pound of rotational weight off my ride! I'm still in awe and wondering when this is going to get bad but so far... wow. Very happy. I hope this doesnt bite me in the arse in the worst way.
     
    • Horns Horns x 1
  13. NorCalHub

    NorCalHub Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 6
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    19
    Location:
    Roseville
    I am also real curious about the new Derby Rims....anybody riding those yet? I have one friend that is and he says they are so stiff it makes the ride harsh? Thoughts?
     
  14. mrgto

    mrgto Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 109
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    276
    Your friend needs these then...
    image.jpeg
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. kickstand

    kickstand Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    44 / 415
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Messages:
    3,541
    Location:
    Fenton, MI
    Took a year to think that one up?
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  16. StiHacka

    StiHacka Compensating for something

    Rep/Likes:
    260 / 2,186
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    7,658
    Location:
    i͓̽t͓̽ i͓̽s͓̽ fu͓̽l͓̽l͓̽ o͓̽f s͓̽t͓̽a͓̽r͓̽s͓̽
    There are better wheels there nowadays


    Sadly my Derbys still require a lot of pedaling.
     
  17. mrgto

    mrgto Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 109
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    276
    Your mom helped me:)
     
  18. kickstand

    kickstand Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    44 / 415
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Messages:
    3,541
    Location:
    Fenton, MI
    Come on, mom jokes stopped getting a ride out of us in middle school
     
  19. mrgto

    mrgto Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    6 / 109
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    276
    You make it too easy.
     
  20. jstuhlman

    jstuhlman We noticed.

    Rep/Likes:
    278 / 2,383
    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    6,744
    Location:
    Cackalacka du Nord
    so does your mom? :rimshot:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  21. jeremy_2640

    jeremy_2640 Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    0 / 6
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Messages:
    81
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Strongest carbon and nicest feeling wheels I've rode are these: http://www.bouwmeester.com.au/products/tammar-650b

    Ridden Enve's, Mavic, Light bicycle, Stans prior to that. So tough and just have a really nice mix of lateral stiffness and compliance.

    From there website:
     
  22. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

    Rep/Likes:
    193 / 1,147
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    43,351
    Location:
    In a van.... down by the river
    No 26... NO CARE!

    :D
     
  23. Jm_

    Jm_ Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    112 / 639
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    6,930
    Location:
    AK
    I see, $2700US for rims that are 20-30g heavier than my nexties. Do they come with any extra hookers?

    I do believe there are still advantages to double-wall designs.
     
  24. HenryTheHammer

    Rep/Likes:
    2 / 0
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    436
    Location:
    Spokanada
    Been smashing the shit out of some Stans ZTR Flow EX's all season on my Wreckoning, still going strong and true.
     
  25. junkyard

    junkyard You might feel a little prick.

    Rep/Likes:
    22 / 116
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2015
    Messages:
    371
    Location:
    San Diego
    I had a weird sound on my megatrail. Couldn't find it. Looked at my derby and it was basically straight. Rode it after tightening and greasing a bunch of stuff. Noise still there. So decided to true up the wheel. I found three spokes with no tension at all on the gauge. And a bunch of loose ones. I had done drop offs and jumps into rock gardens with the loose spokes. But nothing really extreme. That wheel is straight as can be. Surprised me.
     
    #25 -   Aug 8, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2016
  26. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

    Rep/Likes:
    193 / 1,147
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    43,351
    Location:
    In a van.... down by the river
    Yah. Crabon wheels, in my limited experience, will stay true through it all...and then they crack.:D
     
  27. junkyard

    junkyard You might feel a little prick.

    Rep/Likes:
    22 / 116
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2015
    Messages:
    371
    Location:
    San Diego
    I can't smoke that crack can I?
     
  28. rideit

    rideit Bob the Builder

    Rep/Likes:
    38 / 520
    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2004
    Messages:
    3,364
    Location:
    In the cleavage of the Tetons
    It costs about the same as a good crack addiction.
     
  29. Jm_

    Jm_ Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    112 / 639
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    6,930
    Location:
    AK
    And then you still ride them 10 miles downhill to the bottom, crack and all.
     
  30. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

    Rep/Likes:
    193 / 1,147
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    43,351
    Location:
    In a van.... down by the river
    Srsly. I don't even know how long mine were cracked. And even after I found out I rode them a few times until the new rim showed up.
     
  31. jeremy_2640

    jeremy_2640 Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    0 / 6
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Messages:
    81
    Location:
    Melbourne

    What are said advantages?? Buy once cry once. I've had the chinese open mould wheels (and enves) and it makes no financial sense as they simply don't hold up to aggressive riding/racing running the same pressures and ride quality as these. Not saying you should buy them - that's your choice dude. However thread entitles "best" enduro wheels. In my experience there is none better than this. Period.

    Comparing Nextie, LB, Zelvy etc to BC (and Enve to some respect) is like comparing a Formula Ford to a Formula one sure they both go around a circuit but one is the ultimate and priced accordingly.
     
    #31 -   Aug 16, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2016
  32. Jm_

    Jm_ Turbo Monkey

    Rep/Likes:
    112 / 639
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    6,930
    Location:
    AK
    Well, stiffness is a function of surface area, for one. These Chinese probably know a hell of a lot more about crab-on than you think. Still many hookers or shock upgrades I could have bought over envy or some overpriced rim. The only constant in business is change, someone will always come along that will figure out how to do what you do: cheaper, quicker, better, etc...
     
    #32 -   Aug 16, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2016
  33. jeremy_2640

    jeremy_2640 Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    0 / 6
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Messages:
    81
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Majority of stiffness comes from spokes. However I think stiffness isn't the main issue. Well tuned characteristics is more important in my opinion. So having vertical compliance in the rim gives more traction (ie faster) and lateral stiffness for efficient power transfer.

    Even a quick google of Enves previously the ultimate wheel in the market show voids in the layup which cause weakness and failure. See black dots in pic below. I have been lucky enough to check out cross sections from the factory and there just simply aren't any voids - it's not possible with their process. There are a couple of pics on their website.

    http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netd...15/07/ENVE_High-Volume_Rims_M-Series_0001.jpg




    Again the question is do you want the cheapest or the best??? If you want the cheapest you should probably post up a new thread...
     
    #33 -   Aug 16, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2016
  34. twenty666

    twenty666 Chimp

    Rep/Likes:
    2 / 4
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    28
    Lightest and strongest is relative to the riders skill and terrain. Run the lightest rims that are durable for you and provide the rigidity you want. As you crack rims go heavier until you don't.