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Who makes a 22" TT with a 13.75 CS? Farme?

HiHoEskimo

Chimp
Nov 13, 2006
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Olney, MD
I'm looking to get a BMX bike for dirt/street/park. I'm trying to find a frame with a about a 22inch top tube and 13.75 chain stay. I am mainly a XC racing who rides 29ers so the longer the tt the better. I like the short chains to whip the bike around easier.

Thanks for the help!
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
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austin
I'm looking to get a BMX bike for dirt/street/park. I'm trying to find a frame with a about a 22inch top tube and 13.75 chain stay. I am mainly a XC racing who rides 29ers so the longer the tt the better. I like the short chains to whip the bike around easier.

Thanks for the help!
i think the only 22" tt bmx bike out there is the macneil deuce deuce. it does not have a short back end, but i still like it.
 

HiHoEskimo

Chimp
Nov 13, 2006
23
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Olney, MD
How does the deuce duece do for flatland 180s and 360s? I saw that the MacNeill Young has a 21.25 with 13.8 rear.

The 08 GT Fueler looks to have a 22.1 TT with a 13.8 cs. Not sure if I could go with a GT since they are now owned by a department store company :disgust1:
 
Mar 10, 2005
479
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Santa Cruz/Sacramento, Ca
Seshin bikes makes a 21.25 frame with a relatively short rear. I don't mean to sound preachy or anything like that, but unless you're obscenely tall, I don't think you'd need to go much longer than that. The longer tt is going to make it more difficult to spin and, unlike riding XC and all that, getting your weight over the front wheel isn't exactly something you should do on a bmx. Then again, I'm not you. You know what you want, so go for it!

I do know that I went from wanting a 22tt to riding with a 20.5 with relatively no problems. It feels cramped at first, but think of it this way -- smaller TTs will help you spin faster! Yeah, I'm getting a new, longer, frame now. Just ignore that part. ;)

I just ordered a 21tt Sh*thawk. They're pretty light and cheap. 200USD shipped!
 

HiHoEskimo

Chimp
Nov 13, 2006
23
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Olney, MD
Yea, there must be a reason why there is not to many 22TT frames out there. All I've ridden lately is a Kink Roc with 20.75, almost perfect, just a bit short. Quality for cost I can get a Specialized Fuze 4 from the shop I race for. I'm hitting Rays Indoor MTB Park
( www.raysmtb.com ) over Thanksgiving, they might have some demo BMX bikes so I can try them with real riding.
 

sb317

Monkey
Sep 6, 2005
338
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North Carolina
Fit is coming out with the Foster/Inman sig frame called the Lurch. It's got a 21 1/4 tt with a 14 1/4 rear. Not a short rear by any means but another option you could look at. I just think 22" is too long for just about anybody under 7'.
 

HiHoEskimo

Chimp
Nov 13, 2006
23
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Olney, MD
I'm 6" tall soI am begining to think that the 22TT is not needed. How many of you all ride BMX bikes and XC bikes? Do you have much problems transfering back and forth?
 

Mr Tiles

I'm a beer snob
Nov 10, 2003
3,469
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L-town ya'll
I ditched my mtb for a 20.

btw, I'm 6' and ride a 21" w/14" stays. I had a 20.625 but swapped it for the 21", much more comfy on it.

gratuitous bike porn shot:
 

ebrider510

Monkey
Dec 7, 2006
410
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Bay Area, CA
i'm just over 6' and ride a 20.75 which feels good. new frame will be a 21". i also have no problem transitioning from my BMX to my track bike or MTB's.

also, you may want to look into a bit longer rear end. in the MTB street world it's pretty much all about the shortest rear end possible but in BMX that isn't always the case. i rode my wheel slammed at 13.8" or so and then had to add some length to my chain for brake clearance. it now sits at around 14.5" i think..basically at the end of the drops, but it feels so good. i can still spin/manual super easily, but also have a bit more balance and stability. if i were you i'd look into a frame with a 14"+ rear end.
 

t1maglio

Monkey
Oct 29, 2001
855
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southern wisconsin
I ride a 21" Terribleone and am 5'11". I originally started riding on a Mtb and progressively worked that down to a DJ size. I struggled slightly when I transitioned just because the MTB was so much more stable. Over the years I've moved away from the big bike and mostly ride the little one, I just have a lot more fun riding street, dirt, and park on it, but I will always have a love for MTB's and I just built a new MOB and am having a great time on that.

Its just a matter of what your doing on the bikes. If your comparing jumping, coming down to a 20 can feel twitchy, but again, the more you do it the better it will feel.

Good luck and enjoy, 20's are addicting. Be prepared to possibly lose your need for MTBing so much.
 

HiHoEskimo

Chimp
Nov 13, 2006
23
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Olney, MD
How much do you all find that stem length helps to stretch a rider or do you find stem length is more for speeding up and slowing down steering?
 

Mr Tiles

I'm a beer snob
Nov 10, 2003
3,469
0
L-town ya'll
I agree with the shorter stays point made above. My current set up has got the wheel right at 14.25 and it's perfectly awesome for me.
 

Mr Tiles

I'm a beer snob
Nov 10, 2003
3,469
0
L-town ya'll
How much do you all find that stem length helps to stretch a rider or do you find stem length is more for speeding up and slowing down steering?
I've found that bars (height) make a profoundly larger difference than stem length. I'm totally sold on 8" bars. I think my stem is a 43-45. I need to check it.
 

t1maglio

Monkey
Oct 29, 2001
855
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southern wisconsin
Careful with that stem thing. Your weight gets to far forward it will mess with the natural efficiency that a 20 has to manual, bunnyhop, and jump. Most stems are around a 50mm reach, give or take a mm, unless your a monster I don't see to much need to deviate.

Also, keep those bars raked equal to your forks. Scooting them forward might seem like a good idea but you will be shunned for looking like your from Chicago (and your bike will ride like poo)!

Its not going to feel like a MTB, its not supposed to.
 

HiHoEskimo

Chimp
Nov 13, 2006
23
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Olney, MD
Yea, was afraid the long stem would put the weight to far forward.

I have a Haro monoque and an old hutch trick star, both of them handle poor for 180s and 360s. Nearly crashed just trying to do a 180 on flat ground on the Haro. That's what I get for flat landing a race bike :)
 
Mar 10, 2005
479
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Santa Cruz/Sacramento, Ca
Yeah. Everybody here has made some really good points.

About the transferring between bikes gig. If you start riding your bmx often, then it'll definitely be a little difficult. . . at first. I don't ride XC, but I ride a way-too-big-for-me freeride bike, and the transitions were a bit hard at first. Granted, when I say hard, I mean it took around five minutes to warm up to the new geo.

Now that I have been riding both of my bikes often, for the past year or so, the transitions are completely unnoticeable. In fact, I think I became equally comfortable on either bike about a week or so of riding them often. They're different bikes, by all means, but I don't feel sketchy switching between either, any time.

I was even thinking about racing the hardtail category at our local DH race with my bmx bike. It would've been epic!
 

Slamsforlife

Chimp
Apr 5, 2008
2
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I was wonder if the 22' inch tt frames feel like you are riding a crusier?

because im 6'9 and i am thinking of getting a Dk R/T in 22' with grand slam bars.
 

ebrider510

Monkey
Dec 7, 2006
410
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Bay Area, CA
I was wonder if the 22' inch tt frames feel like you are riding a crusier?

because im 6'9 and i am thinking of getting a Dk R/T in 22' with grand slam bars.
it won't feel like a cruiser in terms of how short the rear end will be compared to one. it should fit comfortably though while remaining flickable.
 

Bryan67

Chimp
Nov 23, 2007
83
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Fresno, Ca.
The last 20" I has was a custom made Fit Series One with a 22" tt and I think a 14.5" rear. I loved to death but just feel better now on a big bike. I`m 6'2" and almost 43 years old. But S&M and Standard will make what ever you want. It will cost you though. You might want to check out the DK RT for less money.