I wish someone would tell these self important pricks that it isn't about them...
By we I meant the American military presence in Iraq because that is what Khamenei was referring too.
That's the best plan I've ever heard of.......for turning your country into a third world one. The scary thing is is that I'm pretty sure you believe this sh*t.
. Repeat after me Stellite- the world does not revolve around your country.
I don't think that you can blame the regular Arab or Moslem person. As we are a product of our religious and political system so are they. The difference is that we live in a more open society that will question authority. Many of us may not like the anti war protesters or others of their like. But they provide an invaluable service to our country, the bull**** filter. Now it is not just the leftist hippies that provide the bull**** filter but our society as a whole tends to search for facts and explanations to what our leaders say and do. Most Islamic/Arabic countries do not allow such questioning of their political and religious leadership. This leadership then takes advantage of this situation to spout partisan nonsense to control their people. They use highly emotional subjects to blame the evils of the world on the US. Kind of the same way the Nazis blamed the Jews and McCarthyism blamed comies. Islamic leaders use the US as a scapegoat to distract their people from the true cause of their problems and to control them at the same time. In the past there were multiple super powers that people could pick side from. But now the US stands as the only superpower, and that has and will draw the attention of the rest of the world. More people began to hate the Yankees or the Lakers after they won multiple championships and dominated their sport. We have been the world champs for the past 60 years and because of it people like to hate us. This is a very complicated situation and that was my half asses attempt at explaining it.
It is unfortunate that you do not get the sarcasm of it. It is all true, however, it is, was and will be impossible to stay out of world affairs. Do I believe in it, no, of course not. However, at one time there were many that did, they were called isolationists and they had a voice. Oh, and by the way, Valve Bouncer, the world doe revolve around the US. Wether you want to admit it or not, it is the US's huge deterrent which keeps the Saddams of the world from rolling into the Kuwaits of the world. There is no doubt that the US and it's allies (NATO not the UN) have stopped a lot of imperialism in the world. Of course the US shouldn't take all the credit, since it was a union of countries that believed in the same thing that has acted on fighting evil. However, along the way there have been countries that have claimed to be our friends and are not. I think that describes some of our muslim friends, like the Saudis for example. Why was it that just about all the 9/11 hijackers came from a country that is our friend,supposedly. It also describes countries like France, which appear to take an opposite position to ours just BECAUSE..Originally posted by valve bouncer
That's the best plan I've ever heard of.......for turning your country into a third world one. The scary thing is is that I'm pretty sure you believe this sh*t.
Oh right sarcasm, I see....yeah good one Stellite, ya really got me there mate. I should have guessed that an ocean of moderation such as yourself would never believe something so idiotic.
Getting back on the subject.
GASP!
What you accuse me of is quote obviously your problem as well.
LMAO@ Stellite, nice dodge there fella, you should be in politics. What I am or am not is not the issue here. You posted something that was so reactionary it would have made Rush Limbaugh blush without any kind of hint as to your feelings except to say that it was "apropo" (sic) to the discussion. You got called and then went into the classic "I was only joking" routine. My point is- if you post stupidity expect to be challenged. Have a nice day.Originally posted by Stellite
What you accuse me of is quote obviously your problem as well.
There is no moderation in your voice, so I think you can step down off your high horse
If you cannot tell that the originaly post was meant to make people think that we are doing is the right thing, then you are quite dense. The post is a joke that has been going around on email and it is designed to point out to those who disagree with what the US and allies are doing, a rediculous alternative, which is akin to sticking your head in the sand. The fact that you cannot realize this indicates a lot. You have a nice day
Nice one StelliteOriginally posted by Stellite
If you cannot tell that the originaly post was meant to make people think that we are doing is the right thing, then you are quite dense. The post is a joke that has been going around on email and it is designed to point out to those who disagree with what the US and allies are doing, a rediculous alternative, which is akin to sticking your head in the sand. The fact that you cannot realize this indicates a lot. You have a nice day
Your post clears everything up, incoherent as it may be. I may find your point of view to be as ludicrous as ever but at least now I'm not left to guess as to your intentions for posting it. If you'd have done that at the start maybe you would have saved yourself all that trouble.If I am incoherent, it is because I hate to type and would like to have a voice activated typing system. Until then I will try to make my typing short which causes the meaning of some sentences to be lost as it was in our discussion. If you'll notice I post a lot of stuff that I get via email sent to me. A lot of it a pro-american in flavor to it as most of the people sending me stuff are americans who favor what we are doing as I do.Originally posted by valve bouncer
Nice one Stellite
Yeah, you and me both Stellite. I actually thought it was your haste at typing that caused the mis-understanding. As for me, I'm perfect and never make mistakesOriginally posted by Stellite
If I am incoherent, it is because I hate to type and would like to have a voice activated typing system. Until then I will try to make my typing short which causes the meaning of some sentences to be lost as it was in our discussion. If you'll notice I post a lot of stuff that I get via email sent to me. A lot of it a pro-american in flavor to it as most of the people sending me stuff are americans who favor what we are doing as I do.
Good point RBX.
And isn't it funny how the only ministry/department in Iraq still intact after 3-4 weeks of bombing is the Oil Ministry? But only to bring it back to the Iraqi people of course...
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