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Tenchiro

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I saw on the news last night a Republican get taken out in a Kerry convention for heckling, and I just see this pic of a Democrat getting what for because she was heckling some sort of republican convention.



He looks like he is enjoying himself way too much...

EDIT -- I think this is a pic of the republican

 

RhinofromWA

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Aug 16, 2001
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LOL That old guy is enjoying it....but I think I see a smirk on that young dems face....:) A forbidden love. :love:

The other dude looks like he is out of place. :D
enter Seseme Street music.....
Which one of these things is not like the other?
One of these things just isn't correct?
......
 

syadasti

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Three-year-old Sophia Parlock cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, after having their Bush-Cheney sign torn up by Kerry-Edwards supporters on Thursday, Sept. 16, 2004, at the Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va. Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards (news - web sites) made a brief stop at the airport as he concluded his two-day bus tour to locations in West Virginia and Ohio. (AP Photo/Randy Snyder)
 

fluff

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Sep 8, 2001
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ALEXIS_DH said:
haha, what an idiot to pull out a bush sign on a democratic rally.
What a tool to involve a child that age.

Still, he'd probably have been arrested at a Bush rally if he'd had a Kerry/Edwards banner. For his own good of course.
 

Slugman

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fluff said:
What a tool to involve a child that age.
What a smart move... intentionally cause a problem but use your child as a sheild and a photo-op.

This is why the GOP will win - they are simple ruthless... this picture is worth more than 1000 articles of arrested Kerry supporters.

Face it kids, the general public won't read an entire article (myself included at times...) - but they will look at the picture and remember it for a long time!

EDIT* syadasti, do you have a link to the original article?
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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fluff said:
Still, he'd probably have been arrested at a Bush rally if he'd had a Kerry/Edwards banner. For his own good of course.
since you don't know what you're talking about, i'll tell you what actually happened on tuesday in denver:

2 separate pro-kerry protesters interrupted the president & were escorted from the venue. my vantage point was right by the exit with clear shot (bad choice of words, i know) of the event from beginning to end.

now, if they were black, that would be a different story. Then they'd tear up their voter registration cards. That's what kerry would have you believe of course:

one black guy's opinion
 

fluff

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$tinkle said:
since you don't know what you're talking about, i'll tell you what actually happened on tuesday in denver:

2 separate pro-kerry protesters interrupted the president & were escorted from the venue. my vantage point was right by the exit with clear shot (bad choice of words, i know) of the event from beginning to end.

now, if they were black, that would be a different story. Then they'd tear up their voter registration cards. That's what kerry would have you believe of course:

one black guy's opinion
So you've forgotten about the couple who were arrested 'for their own safety' for wearing anti-bush t-shirts at a republican rally then?

Still, good to see you're still using anecdotal evidence and insults.
 

syadasti

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Slugman said:
EDIT* syadasti, do you have a link to the original article?
No, I like to browse yahoo's most popular photo section - that happened to be there.

When most people read what happened, they will realize those people are just hecklers and hecklers should be treated as such no matter which party they are from...

Or they'll laugh and just say OWN3D :D
 

$tinkle

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fluff said:
So you've forgotten about the couple who were arrested 'for their own safety' for wearing anti-bush t-shirts at a republican rally then?

Still, good to see you're still using anecdotal evidence and insults.
good to see you still fail to recognize anecdotal evidence as evidence nonetheless. Say...are you not attempting to cite a past event anecdotally?

and, no, haven't seen their mugs on thesmokinggun.com. Is there some place you'd care to direct me to provide evidence - even if anecdotal - as to their arrest? And if i can predict how you'd define arrest, i've been "arrested" dozens of times, yet still have a sky-hi clearance. Go figure...


oh, & i read your article by mr palast of "journalism & film" and found this interesting:
At the heart of the ethnic purge of voting rights was the creation of a central voter file for Florida placed in the hands of an elected, and therefore partisan, official.
yet, he failed to identify as to which party this official was affiliated. Call me mad, but would it not benefit mr palast to identify the party to which this official was affiliated?
 

BurlyShirley

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Slugman said:
If you look at the woman just behind them on the right... I think that is what she's yelling :D

Actually, I think the dude on the left is John Kerry himself having a laugh with a backward baseball cap on!
 

fluff

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$tinkle said:
good to see you still fail to recognize anecdotal evidence as evidence nonetheless. Say...are you not attempting to cite a past event anecdotally?

and, no, haven't seen their mugs on thesmokinggun.com. Is there some place you'd care to direct me to provide evidence - even if anecdotal - as to their arrest? And if i can predict how you'd define arrest, i've been "arrested" dozens of times, yet still have a sky-hi clearance. Go figure...


oh, & i read your article by mr palast of "journalism & film" and found this interesting:yet, he failed to identify as to which party this official was affiliated. Call me mad, but would it not benefit mr palast to identify the party to which this official was affiliated?
Do you understand the concept of anecdotal evidence?

It's not anecdotal evidence when it's reported in the papers with confirmed sources and Police statements etc and is traceable, there was even a thread about it here. Anecdotal evidence would be if I were to say (as you did) 'when I was at the Republican rally..'. See the difference? Why I pointed it out was because you were using one experience to attempt to deny a confirmed news report.

And the official (Katherine Harris) was... wait for it... Republican! I guess Mr Palast credits his readers with some intelligence. Have you read any of his work before?

Here's a bit more:

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King is not so naïve as to believe vote-count errors are race-neutral. In the presidential election of 2000, 1.9 million ballots cast were never counted by tally machines—“spoiled,” in the language of elections officials. But the spoilage rate has a distinctly “color”: The massive Harvard University Civil Rights Project study released last year found that it was 50% more likely fr a black vote to be “spoiled” than a white vote. In Florida, the U.S. Civil Rights Commission found that a black vote was nearly 10 times as likely as a white vote to be rejected.



Machinery, computerized or otherwise, has made the racial bend of lost votes worse. In our investigations in Florida for the BBC, we found that in 2000 paper ballots read by optical scanners in the county with the highest black population were 25 times as likely to be rejected as those cast in the neighboring majority white county, using the same paper ballots—but a different automated counting system.

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Slugman

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BurlySurly said:
Actually, I think the dude on the left is John Kerry himself having a laugh with a backward baseball cap on!
Well he does have part of the sign in his hands... so it's probably not him because the republicans keep telling me he would never launch a pro-active attack.

Actually the more I look at this picture the greater it is (for the GOP).

All the "Kerry/Edwards" people are dressed in baseball caps and t-shirts while the "Bush/Cheney" guy is in a dress shirt and tie. The guy in the background has his "K/E" sign upside down. And it appears that the black women is berating a white man who is there with his child.

Could you possibly have a better picture if you were part of the GOP...
 

$tinkle

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fluff said:
Do you understand the concept of anecdotal evidence?

It's not anecdotal evidence when it's reported in the papers with confirmed sources and Police statements etc and is traceable, there was even a thread about it here. Anecdotal evidence would be if I were to say (as you did) 'when I was at the Republican rally..'. See the difference?
you want it on paper? CTRL-P. If i understand you, you're speaking from the point of view "who are you going to believe - me or your own 2 eyes (groucho)".
fluff said:
Why I pointed it out was because you were using one experience to attempt to deny a confirmed news report.
i can't deny that which i don't know. Easter bunny included.
fluff said:
And the official (Katherine Harris) was... wait for it... Republican! I guess Mr Palast credits his readers with some intelligence.
the Florida election system is quite decentralized and the functionaries in charge of elections in each county had far more control over voting procedures within the county than Ms. Harris possessed. Thus, in the democratic counties that were in dispute, the functionaries were all Democrats. Thus, the finger pointing at Ms. Harris was woefully misdirected. If there was any intentional disenfranchisement of Black voters it was due to partisans for Gore.
fluff said:
Have you read any of his work before?
not on purpose.
 

ohio

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$tinkle said:
the Florida election system is quite decentralized and the functionaries in charge of elections in each county had far more control over voting procedures within the county than Ms. Harris possessed. Thus, in the democratic counties that were in dispute, the functionaries were all Democrats. Thus, the finger pointing at Ms. Harris was woefully misdirected. If there was any intentional disenfranchisement of Black voters it was due to partisans for Gore.not on purpose.
Is there some type of pill you have to take to not question this? Seriously, read what you just wrote, and ask yourself if this could actually be possible.

Additionally, um, much of the dispute is regarding Harris's actions before the election when she purposefully and illegally blacklisted a tidy sum of eligible black voters. Even if you disputed the numbers down to a single legal voter, how on Earth can you possibly justify that? For chrissakes, it's reasonable to be happy she was on your team, but have some self-respect and kick her off when it becomes public.
 

$tinkle

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ohio said:
Is there some type of pill you have to take to not question this? Seriously, read what you just wrote, and ask yourself if this could actually be possible.
the red pill - no kool-aid, which is what you may have been drinking if you deny the charter/role of the governance of each of the 67 FL counties. If i'm wrong (don't worry, i'm not), you could easily demonstrate that her authority could & was used to override that of the counties in question.
ohio said:
Additionally, um, much of the dispute is regarding Harris's actions before the election when she purposefully and illegally blacklisted a tidy sum of eligible black voters.
kindly provide the law/ordinance/statute she violated & the results of the impeachment procedings.

if you go to fairvote.org, you'll find they don't help your baseless assertions, and they're rather liberal, calling for (among other crazy ideas), to abolish the electoral college.
 

ohio

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$tinkle said:
kindly provide the law/ordinance/statute she violated & the results of the impeachment procedings.
You're joking, right? It's called the XV Amendment:
1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

And not being impeached does not mean that the crime wasn't committed. I really hope you're not going to try and argue otherwise, :rolleyes: unless you want to contradict pages of Repub bitching about Clinton.
 

N8 v2.0

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syadasti said:
OWN3D!

Little girl gets apology from union
Drudge

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the fullest extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.
 

fluff

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Cue $tinker-bell:

But Texas has has not one but two 'x's. The armadillos come to my in a green cadillac and point out that it was nay yet who but if not then Shrekspeare to walk upon the moon is but for me to lust after George Bush, only but when he was a schoolboy.

If it's an onion then I am right, no?
 

$tinkle

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ohio said:
You're joking, right? It's called the XV Amendment:
1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
joking? hardly.
Please provide...scratch that...you can't provide that which does not exist.
katherine harris was never convicted, nor indicted, nor charged with any crime. In fact, she was elected to congress almost 2 years ago. And the "scrubbing" as you would probably like to say, was legal. You can try & say it wasn't, but you've yet to demonstrate such.
ohio said:
And not being impeached does not mean that the crime wasn't committed. I really hope you're not going to try and argue otherwise, :rolleyes: unless you want to contradict pages of Repub bitching about Clinton.
you knew clinton was impeached for lying to congress, right?
 

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Slugman

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Westy said:
He hee, the guy ripping the sign does look an aweful lot like that guys son. That guy has a PhD in spin.
He he he... like I said - the perfect photo-op for the GOP.

Nicely staged boys! :thumb: Typical for this administration.
 

ohio

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N8 said:
OWN3D!

Little girl gets apology from union
That's nice to see. What's the likelihood of the lefties (equally asshats, I should point out) that recieved similar treatment at Bush events getting a nice letter of apology?
 

LordOpie

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Archslater said:
In a related story...
A convention was held recently for eating disorders. It was a very scary few hours when the bulemics ate the anorexics, but tensions were relieved when the anorexics came back just an hour later.
 

syadasti

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It seems many Republicans are child abusers :nope:



Presidential hairdo : A young [forced] Bush supporter wears her hair braids in the shape of a "W" made by her mother using a bent clothes hanger for a campaign visit by US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) in Rochester, Minnesota. (AFP/Tim Sloan)